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Originally Posted by grasshopper
(Post 1424200)
The ASAP gatekeepers are going to miss you.
I won't give details, but Bar would be ROFL. |
Originally Posted by forgot to bid
(Post 1424219)
Evidently I have all summer and then some to fill out ASAPs. :D
I won't give details, but Bar would be ROFL. |
Originally Posted by hockeypilot44
(Post 1424209)
It's disgusting. We need to have consequences written into all of our scope sections. I think it should be written into every single section, but let's start with scope. How about they can't maintain the numbers, we take 6 seats out of every single outsourced 76 seater? Sound familiar? How about our wages reset to 2k contract rates? Any other ideas? We need to get off our knees. We deserve a happy ending also.
Did anyone notice in the Alaska TA the number of sections that included furlough clauses? Alaska can do X, unless there are furloughs. Then, they can't. I liked the concept. We should add a little of that attitude to our contract. Spell out the consequences of a violation with a remedy inside of the contract. It would have solved a lot of the JV issues. |
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Originally Posted by hockeypilot44
(Post 1424209)
It's disgusting. We need to have consequences written into all of our scope sections. I think it should be written into every single section, but let's start with scope. How about they can't maintain the numbers, we take 6 seats out of every single outsourced 76 seater? Sound familiar? How about our wages reset to 2k contract rates? Any other ideas? We need to get off our knees. We deserve a happy ending also.
By now it should be clear to everyone that we are now operating under the culture of Northwest Airlines...not the late great Delta Air Lines culture. As such, we need a fNWA type like Ken Watts to enforce every single word of the contract. EVERY SINGLE WORD. Unless and until we enforce every word in the same manner management enforces every word when it's in their interests to do so, then additional protective language will protect nothing. Carl |
Originally Posted by Check Essential
(Post 1424208)
The Delta MEC will never enforce any scope restrictions.
If the company bumps up against a limit, the limit will be changed. Its happened before. Its happening now. It will happen in the future. What bugs me is we don't even ask for any compensation when we bend over. Management needs a little mid-term contract modification? Fine. So do we. This latest reaming should have been worth a small pay bump or making vacation pay 4 hours a day or maybe a point or two on the DC contributions. Something. Anything. Instead DALPA just assumes the position. And calls it an opportunity. It is precisely this type of activity and constant spinning that cause ALPA to lose traction and support from it's membership. |
"Your MEC believes an opportunity has now arisen that will provide us the ability to update and improve upon our PWA scope language. With that in mind, the Delta MEC has directed the Negotiating Committee to begin discussions with the Company on these issues."
So should we expect to hear something from the negotiators in the near future? And any ideas what "opportunity" is there for the pilot group? Not holding my breath... |
Originally Posted by Jack Bauer
(Post 1424348)
That is the most bazaar part of these deals. If we want something, anything, the standard response from the company is "what are you willing to give up for that?" When the company wants something our union sees it as their duty to lift restrictions, give more leeway and provide the relief the company asks for. Not only is this messed up in that it's not a 50/50 relationship but it also encourages the company to chronically, purposely "get themselves into a bind" in such a way that benefits them only and moves their agenda.
It is precisely this type of activity and constant spinning that cause ALPA to lose traction and support from it's membership. |
Originally Posted by DeadHead
(Post 1424349)
"Your MEC believes an opportunity has now arisen that will provide us the ability to update and improve upon our PWA scope language. With that in mind, the Delta MEC has directed the Negotiating Committee to begin discussions with the Company on these issues."
So should we expect to hear something from the negotiators in the near future? And any ideas what "opportunity" is there for the pilot group? Not holding my breath... I say BRAVO! |
Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
(Post 1424354)
Just wait until they announce the "opportunity" for the company being out of compliance with the AF/KL JV next year...
Originally Posted by georgetg
(Post 1424150)
Here's my question, thank you for playing:
Why are we giving the company a waiver on scope in NRT when the company has shown no plan on how to bring our share of the Transatlantic JV flying back up to 50%... Up until now, we were told there is nothing we can do. Everything is in compliance and that we hold no cards when it comes to the flying share of the Transatlantic JV. The scope improvement opportunity now is to tell the company no dice on the NRT waiver unless we see a comprehensive plan to bring the Delta transatlantic flying share up to 50% on a 3-year loockback. Wouldn't we need more 7ER FOs if we were flying our 50% share of the Transatlantic JV flying? Cheers George |
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