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johnso29 06-24-2013 12:29 PM


Originally Posted by ShyGuy (Post 1433880)
With Virgin America of course! ;)

Wait....a 3 way? :eek: Timeout!!!! :D

newKnow 06-24-2013 12:30 PM


Originally Posted by johnso29 (Post 1433878)
Let's hope. I keep having to park at the B gate in SEA, so we have obviously increased flying there. I also operate a LAX-SEA next month. I like what I'm seeing. :)

I was just there yesterday and the day before. It was nice not to have to take the train from the S gates. :D

johnso29 06-24-2013 12:33 PM


Originally Posted by newKnow (Post 1433885)
I was just there yesterday and the day before. It was nice not to have to take the train from the S gates. :D

Right? It is such a short trip to B7 as opposed to S4. :)

Carl Spackler 06-24-2013 12:49 PM


Originally Posted by Jack Bauer (Post 1433781)
Hey, I know we mainly into "opportunities" that seem to benefit the company right now but out of curiosity what would it take for DALPA to get SEA officially designated and treated as a "hub"?

It would take management wanting to officially designate and treat SEA a hub. When that happens, DALPA will be all over it.

Carl

TeddyKGB 06-24-2013 12:54 PM

Does international override go above and beyond reserve guarantee? Can't find in the PWA how that gets factored in for reserve pilots.

maddogmax 06-24-2013 01:03 PM

MD-90 off the taxiway and stuck in the mud at DCA. Airport still open.

Jack Bauer 06-24-2013 01:04 PM


Originally Posted by johnso29 (Post 1433874)
Jack,

Out of pure curiosity.....how would Virgin Atlantic operate JFK to ATL, BNA, CAE, BOS, (insert US city here)?

Now if you're suggesting they'll take all of our transatlantic routes....well you and I should just agree to disagree on that. :)

I very much could see us ceding current landing slots to VA between Heathrow and other US cities including JFK. As much as our brand seems to be making progress, I believe our leadership sees Virgin Atlantic as such a premium brand (with assets we are incapable or unwilling to deploy) they would be happy to turn (lend) much of the London based flying over to the Sir Richards Ultra Premium Virgin Atlantic brand (once the Justice Dept signs off on JV language). DALPA's response? "There's a side letter for that. "You see, in the overall scheme of things, having one of Europe's most sexy airlines flying the most important city pairs in the network we win more premium corporate accounts....and that my friend benefits each and every Delta employee in the long run...increased profit sharing and so on and so forth.... end quote.

Delta no longer thinks in terms of Delta Air Lines flying their own metal. It's all about "The Network" and benjamins. Unfortunately the only group we have registered to prevent further erosion of Delta Pilot flying continues to allow carve outs and our very president believes at least one form of outsourced flying is "good for Delta pilots because it feeds our hubs".:rolleyes:

shiznit 06-24-2013 01:18 PM


Originally Posted by Jack Bauer (Post 1433781)
Hey, I know we mainly into "opportunities" that seem to benefit the company right now but out of curiosity what would it take for DALPA to get SEA officially designated and treated as a "hub"?

Sorry for the double post originally.

SEA "hub" status is ONLY in reference to the Alaska Airlines Marketing Agreement. It is already a crew domicile and operational hub for Delta.

To change that, it would require the Company to enter Section 6 negotiations, them willingly open up Section 1 of the PWA, Alaska or Delta terminate the "marketing agreement", or a merger with Alaska Airlines; then the "marketing agreement" would cease to exist and with it the language differentiating Alaska hubs and Delta hubs.

80ktsClamp 06-24-2013 01:28 PM


Originally Posted by maddogmax (Post 1433918)
MD-90 off the taxiway and stuck in the mud at DCA. Airport still open.

Muddog don't give a..... :cool:

shiznit 06-24-2013 01:34 PM


Originally Posted by Jack Bauer (Post 1433919)
I very much could see us ceding current landing slots to VA between Heathrow and other US cities including JFK. As much as our brand seems to be making progress, I believe our leadership sees Virgin Atlantic as such a premium brand (with assets we are incapable or unwilling to deploy) they would be happy to turn (lend) much of the London based flying over to the Sir Richards Ultra Premium Virgin Atlantic brand (once the Justice Dept signs off on JV language). DALPA's response? "There's a side letter for that. "You see, in the overall scheme of things, having one of Europe's most sexy airlines flying the most important city pairs in the network we win more premium corporate accounts....and that my friend benefits each and every Delta employee in the long run...increased profit sharing and so on and so forth.... end quote.

Delta no longer thinks in terms of Delta Air Lines flying their own metal. It's all about "The Network" and benjamins. Unfortunately the only group we have registered to prevent further erosion of Delta Pilot flying continues to allow carve outs and our very president believes at least one form of outsourced flying is "good for Delta pilots because it feeds our hubs".:rolleyes:

Thanks to new language in the PWA that was negotiated by "the only group we have registered to prevent further erosion of Delta Pilot flying" , DAL is must maintain the number of Delta Pilot block hours between the US-UK. The old contract did not have that protection.

Take a look at 1.E.3. Delta Pilots did not have that provision in the previous PWA, and I am very glad we have that protection now.

Block hours are pilot jobs, and D-ALPA should be commended for that gem, even if you have gripes about other parts, 1.E.3 is a valuable section to have right about now.....


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