Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
06-28-2013 | 06:06 PM
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I wish ALPA would have brought us a 20 year contract last year. Initially, 3 years sounded good because of "we'll get em' next time". But the reality is every time they go into a room with management, our contract gets worse and we work a little harder. Year over year it doesn't seem bad but look back a few years and all we can do is see "how it used to be". At this point I'm tired of watching them make things worse. Give us a 20 year contract and go the F--- away. Quit giving up work rules, RJs and profit sharing when the company is making more money than it has pockets to put it in. Sign us a 20 year deal and go away. No more LOAs, side letters, nothing. It just gets worse. Stop it! Sign us a 20 year deal and go away.
06-28-2013 | 06:49 PM
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As of 12/31/12 JAL was operating zero 747-400s. The last JAL 747 flight was in March 2011. Last ones left the fleet in small numbers to various other airlines in 2012.
06-28-2013 | 06:58 PM
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I wish ALPA would have brought us a 20 year contract last year. Initially, 3 years sounded good because of "we'll get em' next time". But the reality is every time they go into a room with management, our contract gets worse and we work a little harder. Year over year it doesn't seem bad but look back a few years and all we can do is see "how it used to be". At this point I'm tired of watching them make things worse. Give us a 20 year contract and go the F--- away. Quit giving up work rules, RJs and profit sharing when the company is making more money than it has pockets to put it in. Sign us a 20 year deal and go away. No more LOAs, side letters, nothing. It just gets worse. Stop it! Sign us a 20 year deal and go away.
Couldn't agree more. Guy I was flying with and I were talking about this. If all we're going to get is COLA raises along with scope relaxations, why not just sign a multidecade PWA that gives us a raise tied to inflation every year. This would stop opening the door to synergies, cooperative efforts, and all of the other negative things that have migrated in.
06-28-2013 | 07:12 PM
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06-28-2013 | 07:36 PM
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06-28-2013 | 07:46 PM
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You get my drift?TEN
06-28-2013 | 07:53 PM
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For those with a superior sense of morality that believe that commuting is a choice and taking the soap from the hotel is stealing... I figure we needed to further that discussion tonight. Every time you go to the bathroom in flight, that costs DL money in lav juice, power spent on powering the toilet, and of course you'll be needing to steal company soap to wash your hands after.
I highly suggest utilizing the NASA solution so you can feel even better about yourself:
I highly suggest utilizing the NASA solution so you can feel even better about yourself:
06-28-2013 | 07:58 PM
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For those with a superior sense of morality that believe that commuting is a choice and taking the soap from the hotel is stealing... I figure we needed to further that discussion tonight. Every time you go to the bathroom in flight, that costs DL money in lav juice, power spent on powering the toilet, and of course you'll be needing to steal company soap to wash your hands after.
06-29-2013 | 05:35 AM
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That is the difficult part. The transition. I think WB/NB is a good starting point. I would say a 40 year payscale because one can get an ATP at (basically) 25 and work to 65. That's 40 years. In this environment, nobody needs a paycut. Some might get a bigger pay increase than others.. but nobody takes a paycut.
How do you propose moving to LGP without someone getting a paycut? The total pilot payroll will not change because we want a new pay system. That's where the idea of longevity pay falls apart. For every pilot that gets more money, another pilot will get less.
06-29-2013 | 06:11 AM
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