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Old 06-29-2013 | 09:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Bucking Bar
Using the progress of agreements as a litmus, the Pinnacle MEC is more engaged and has had better success than the Delta MEC in the last year.
Or maybe you're defining success the old way and not the new way.

Maybe Pinnacle MEC's success with Delta is something the Delta MEC wanted hence the lack of a shot fired across the bow.

Sure we think it's a game and the winner at the end has the highest score, but maybe they've got a different objective and are keeping a different score?

Just pondering. Now back to me working on my six pack...

Old 06-29-2013 | 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted by shiznit
Add in that FA's are staffed at a rate of at least 3 to 1 greater than pilots(probaby more) which really shrinks your 625 WAG. Add in the return of over 200 Military leave pilots and you're pretty much a wash.
Personally, I'd love to see the FAs hiring like gangbusters as a sign of whats around the corner and we'll be next.

If they're not doing that, what does that mean for us?

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Old 06-29-2013 | 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
Or maybe you're defining success the old way and not the new way.
There is no "new" way to measure success.

It boils down to how many Delta pilots have jobs and how much to they earn. Success is very objective.

Justifications for failure tend to be subjective. Adding low cost bidders for management to choose from, instead of our MEC is a strategic blunder which will cost Delta pilot jobs and pay.
Old 06-29-2013 | 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Bucking Bar
There is no "new" way to measure success.

It boils down to how many Delta pilots have jobs and how much to they earn. Success is very objective.

Justifications for failure tend to be subjective. Adding low cost bidders for management to choose from, instead of our MEC is a strategic blunder which will cost Delta pilot jobs and pay.
All of the above, you're absolutely right. What I am asking or suggesting is what if that is not how they measure success? And you can pound the desk and shout at the next LEC meeting but what if they're looking at a "bigger" picture?

Or put it this way- let us say DALPA saw the Pinnacle debacle as a big win. Knowing what you know about the Pinnacle happenings, what then would you say DALPA believes is a win?

And Bar don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to get you to agree with me on something. I'm just poking around to see what you think and whether or not there is more of a ALPA National orientation instead of the lowly "new hire" Delta line pilot orientation.
Old 06-29-2013 | 11:50 AM
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Hey i was in LGA and taking off on 13 the other day. Does anyone know the story on the skid marks that seem to start at the numbers and veer to the right into the grass?
Old 06-29-2013 | 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
What are you going to give up to take that from your employers bottom line? Hmm? You know how many 76 seaters we could buy if we added up all the stolen water, cokes, twix, twix, twix, snickers and my favorite- shortbread cookies!

Think twice before you steal from the company unless you want to be lumped in with commuting commuters.

RJ punks.
Think of all the money you can save by not washing your hands and drying them after you use the potty! Our passengers even try to save us money by doing exactly this!
Old 06-29-2013 | 12:14 PM
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Think of all the money you can save by not washing your hands and drying them after you use the potty! Our passengers even try to save us money by doing exactly this!
When you're on a deadhead, you ought to buy the ticket. After all, are you a professional pilot or just a commuter?
Old 06-29-2013 | 12:14 PM
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Someone asked what happened to ACL65 the other day, well,

Old 06-29-2013 | 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
You know how many 76 seaters we could buy if we added up all the stolen water, cokes, twix, twix, twix, snickers and my favorite- shortbread cookies!






Mmmmmmmm....Shortbread Cookies.

Carl
Old 06-29-2013 | 12:35 PM
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Looking for some destination tips.

My wife and I are planning a trip to Seattle over the July 4th holiday. (July 3rd - 5th)

Anyone have any suggestions of must places to go for eats, sightseeing, and/or great places to stay. Planning, of course, to run down to the Pike Place Market, but other than that, haven't ever been downtown Seattle. (Been to Ft. Lewis once, but would rather leave that experience in my past!)

Thanks for the reply.

GJ
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