looks like Asiana from the logo. News reporting wind 8 kts. Some slides are deployed.

That's a good point. Where does the alignment of goals split off?

I think the company's goals, especially our company, would be a peaceful labor force. We'd like the same thing.

So one way to do that is a fast contract, slight pay raise, talk about the time value of money and add in a little SJS. The cost will increase but you can fund that cost growth through productivity improvements (which I guess is shrinkage in every category top to bottom), realignment opportunities on outsourced aircraft and profit sharing reduction. Not sure that's how I'd done it.

Looks like fire in fuselage but wings intact.

Live feed from the helicopter, no talking: Plane crashed upon landing at San Francisco Intl. airport | Fox News Video

I'm sure security cameras will be interesting.

Mary Schiavo, former head of the DOT, just spoke on CNN and said that it appeared they were "too heavy to land and probably on the wrong place on the glide slope." Case closed. Lol....

Pictures indicate that the aircraft touched down well short of the runway displaced threshold. Tail may have come off when it hit the rocks between the water and runway.

CNN "experts" report "heavy?" landing and the wheels may have "slipped?" That's when I turn off the sound and just look at the pictures.

She's a *****.

Thanks to a portable retirement, I wouldn't my favorite cupcake. Go sell some scope or something. Wear your hat too.

Debris including landing gear all the way from the water beyond the displaced threshold. Looks like 28L.

Isn't that the truth. Any real expert could tell that hitting an air pocket was the cause here.

Carl