If CRJ900s are replacing our older NB jets, then what's replacing the 400+ 50 seaters that are being parked? Also ANC & MEM were closed, but CVG was not. So which way will SLC & MSP go? Staying open like CVG, or closing like MEM & ANC?

Then you've never read anything on the website. They attack ALPA for sure...and for very accurate reasons. But there are many new ways of doing business listed. What you've said is just not true.

This is the kind of stuff that makes me believe you never signed a card or ever went to the website. I don't recall anything from you other than 100% full throated ALPA support. That is of course your right, I just don't remember even the smallest thought of an independent union from you.

This is where you are so wrong finis and your position at the top of the heap is skewing your thinking. First, it's wrong to exclude UPS and FDX. Second, the fact that our pay for the 747 and 777 is approaching that of SWA crews is nothing to crow about. Every pilot makes that at SWA. Only a small percentage of Delta pilots make what you and I make. Further, a significant portion of our seniority list will NEVER make what we make because they'll never get there. You really need to rethink your statement above.

We know with 100% certainty finis. There wasn't even a hint of buying the Virgin stake or the remnants of Pinnacle. Only the corporate goal of debt reduction. The only reason they were able to make these purchases was because of the money we left on the table. If we had taken that money, they wouldn't have been able to make these outsource facilitating purchases and still meet the debt reduction milestones they promised Wall Street.

See above. By leaving extra money on the table, we allowed management to keep their debt reduction promises and make these new outsourcing purchases.

Again, we (DALPA) actually aided management in purchasing more opportunities for management to outsource our jobs. Why would we do that? Because ALPA's mandate is to gain members by spreading the wealth from the have's (Delta pilots) to the have not's (DCI & select JV partners). Welcome to ALPA's brave new world.

Carl

We have the exact same issues with the exact same delays.

Nah. They'll get around that by having ALPA represent the pilots.

Carl

Unless I'm misunderstanding you, I think we'd want just the opposite. Raises that kick in if the company doesn't meet its promised debt reduction goals. That would make them think really hard about buying Virgin stakes and Pinnacle remnants.

Carl

This is 100% spot on.

Carl

Another spot on point and one that is not mentioned often enough.

Carl

YES! AWESOME!!

First johnso29 telling people to resign, now this.

The ghost of Dr. Janus is so proud right now.

Carl

Nothing. Capacity reduction.

An article from the New York Times hit it square on the head back in 2012.

"..., the cramped 50-seat regional jets that were the backbone of service for midsize and smaller markets are disappearing. In some markets, that means service is being eliminated. In others, though, it means reduced schedules on fewer routes, served by slightly bigger planes like the Bombardier CRJ-700, which is a stretched version of the older 50-seat CRJ-200." -Joe Sharkey, New York Times

A few things happened to make this even more lucrative to Delta. We ratified the new contract. Comair and its senior employee group were eliminated. GoJet was signed on to fly those airplanes and Pinnacle was restructured.

This process is continuing at mainline as we have already cut capacity and now we are retiring and replacing larger higher paying aircraft with smaller lower paying aircraft.

The last few years have witnessed nothing short of a large restructuring of Delta. Everything has been driven by cost savings and debt reduction rather than growth or competition.

We've been told time and time again that the companys' goals and our goals are aligned. If the company does well, then we all do well.

While I agree with this logic to some extent, durning contract negotiations the exact opposite is true.

If our aligned interests are so apparent, then why not official connect them contractually to one another. I guess the downside to this is that if the company performs poorly, the we would receive a comeasurate pay cut. To that I would say, isn't that already the case?

Asiana 777 accident
 

CNN reporting an Asiana 777 "crashed" in SFO on landing....