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Originally Posted by Timbo
(Post 1476571)
That press release specifically used the term "Capacity Discipline" at least 3 times...:rolleyes: Doesn't sound like Growth to me.
The 321's will replace the 757's, the A330's will replace the older 767ER's. |
Originally Posted by 10000
(Post 1476555)
Depends on what were giving up to receive these A/C :eek:
Stand by for the next TA on the NRT slots and JV imbalance forgiveness...:rolleyes: |
Originally Posted by DeadHead
(Post 1476570)
As much as this group has its's spouts of infighting, I have to say overall most of our guys look out for one another. As a FO, I rarely pay for beer on the layover. Our group seems to be more about paying it forward rather than paying your dues.
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Originally Posted by slowplay
(Post 1476582)
You know, the fleet plan through 2017 is posted on deltanet. It might do you some good to look at it before you post your opinion.
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Originally Posted by MD88Driver
(Post 1476573)
Growth or replacement? I know DAL won't tip their hand yet, but any rumors to which it will be? I guess by the time we receive the aircraft the market landscape may have changed.
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We can also highlight this:
"...These A330s and A321s will provide tremendous flexibility for Delta to optimally manage our capacity over the next five years while further improving the flight experience for our customers and returns for our shareholders..." That's what they're really after: dial-a-fleet. From delaying a retirement, to delaying deliveries, they have "tremendous" flexibility in matching supply to demand. They don't tell us whether these are growth, because they themselves don't have to decide yet. I would imagine we'll grow ~GDP, + a couple of % because someone will do something weird in terms of trying to gain "market share", and we'll flex (a little) muscle based on a cost advantage vs. most of the industry. So maybe a little aggressive behavior. I'd guess about 4% annual growth. |
Originally Posted by nwaf16dude
(Post 1476548)
Wow...a rumor that actually came true. Anyone care to guess what this does to the hiring numbers?
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
(Post 1476567)
Oui oui, Fifi!
Now a pay rate for the almost 757 weight 321 gets to be negotiated... |
Originally Posted by johnso29
(Post 1476594)
500 per year indefinitely.
Originally Posted by johnso29
(Post 1476590)
Based on the current fleet plan, they're growth airplanes. That fleet plan is available on Deltanet, & is through 2017.
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Originally Posted by RonRicco
(Post 1476595)
Yep.. and then let the debate begin. Do we want a 321 rate that pays 757+ rates, but pays more than it's common category counterparts? Or do we want all aircraft in the category to pay the same which would mean less than 757 probably? (disclaimer.. I just don't think realistically you can expect the 319 to pay the same as a 757 due to revenue generation before someone says "why shouldn't they all pay 757 rates)
Like FedEx! Bring all narrowbody to the new A321 rate what ever that is, and all widebody rates to the 747/777. If AA and UAL can each fly nearly 100 777/747 plus 787 and A350 we can afford to pay these rates. NO ARGUMENT OR DEBATE NEEDED. BECOME UNIFIED AND BE DONE WITH IT!!! |
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