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forgot to bid 02-08-2014 04:22 PM


Originally Posted by flyallnite (Post 1577347)
Yeah, right, they're just raining down on us.. I'd heard it from an AA MD80 guy. We have installed nitro generators on the 767's recently... so maybe there's something to it, like all airplanes will need them or something... I don't really know as I've not read the AD.

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Wait what? We're going to have 270 MD-88s, MD-90s and 717s...

iaflyer 02-08-2014 04:32 PM


Originally Posted by flyallnite (Post 1577296)
I've heard there is an AD out for the MD-80 series aircraft which requires installing a nitrogen generation system for the center fuel tank. American says it will effectively ground the type by 2019 due to the cost. I wonder if the MD-88 avionics upgrades have been put on hold due to this? Not sure when the AD was issued...

I am no MX specialist, but I don't believe this to be true. The AD was for Boeing aircraft, issued as a result of TWA 800. If I remember, it was for 737, 747, 757, 767 and 777.

I think that the design of the Douglas (and thus McDonnell-Douglas) products is different, it's about where the packs are in relation to the center fuel tanks.

Yep: Found it. Only for certain Airbuseseses and Boeings:

Press Release ? FAA Proposes Rule to Reduce Fuel Tank Explosion Risk

Now we can go back to beating the dead horse that was C2012...

76drvr 02-08-2014 04:36 PM


Originally Posted by daldude (Post 1577322)
And yet I move backward on the SLC737 literally every single bid since March of 2012 (except one in spring of 2013, did not move up or down) If that is what growth feel like, I am absolutely terrified of the future. I guess I just don't fully understand how growth effects the seniority list.

The last AE had 5 SLC 320A, 5 SLC 320B and 5 SLC 7ERB vacancies, the award resulted in 5 SLC 320A, 16 SLC 7ERB, 2 SLC 73NB and 8 SLC 320B awards and ZERO displacements in SLC.

System wide the AE award resulted in 296 advances entitlements, 25 reinstatements and no displacements. That equals 321 pilots moving to categories they would rather be in and ZERO moving to categories they would rather not be in.

Unfilled positions included: ATL73NB (6), DTW73NB (2), NYC73NB (31), DTW320B (5), NYC320B (13), ATLM88B (22), NYCM88B (19) and ATL717B (8). These positions will be filled by new hires and posted on future bids. Next AE should be later this month That’s growth and it will continue as the mainline grows through C2012 scope recapture.

Free Bird 02-08-2014 04:40 PM


Originally Posted by daldude (Post 1577322)
And yet I move backward on the SLC737 literally every single bid since March of 2012 (except one in spring of 2013, did not move up or down) If that is what growth feel like, I am absolutely terrified of the future. I guess I just don't fully understand how growth effects the seniority list.

Exactly! Many DAL folks don't realize that the bottom 15% or so of the list continues to stagnate. Amazing how we can have 400 new captains since C2012 and yet I continue to stagnate! I've actually moved backwards in the ATL 88B category about 10 numbers since last fall, but everyone tells me that things are great right now? Since 2001 everyone has been telling me that someday I'll be senior. 13 years later I still fly narrowbody weekend trips?

Cycle Pilot 02-08-2014 04:57 PM


Originally Posted by Free Bird (Post 1577380)
Exactly! Many DAL folks don't realize that the bottom 15% or so of the list continues to stagnate. Amazing how we can have 400 new captains since C2012 and yet I continue to stagnate! I've actually moved backwards in the ATL 88B category about 10 numbers since last fall, but everyone tells me that things are great right now? Since 2001 everyone has been telling me that someday I'll be senior. 13 years later I still fly narrowbody weekend trips?

When I got displaced to NYC 320B back in June 2012, I was at 60%. I'll be at 85% in April. Back on reserve. Plus the west coast keeps getting more senior. Most junior pilot on this bid in SLC 320 B was 5/2000 and SLC 73N B was 2/2001. Doesn't help us who were displaced years ago trying to get back home. We need widebody growth. We won't see that growth until delivery of the 330's in 2015. Meantime, expect more displacements off the -ER in the fall according to the latest Crew Resources letter.

galaxy flyer 02-08-2014 05:17 PM

But, beating the Douglas dead horse is a fan fave!

GF

forgot to bid 02-08-2014 05:17 PM


Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 1577188)
Here is the latest retirement schedule. Subject to change of course.
2014- 14 757
2015- 15 757
2016- 13 757
2017- 22 757 4-767

Over the next 4 years we lose 64 757 and 4 767 airframes. In addition we retired 16 757 airframes in 2013. No other aircraft types were listed for retirement. We should gain around 205 airframes over that period. Net gain 135 plus airframes.

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Wow, okay, use your numbers and the January fleet numbers and I came up with a net increase of 124 aircraft. But that's not a big deal.

What is amazing is that those kind of numbers with the DCI swap out and drop to 450 (I think it's safe to assume the remainder of the allowed 90 seaters is coming) and then add in all the 900s and 717s into the mix.

Throw in the seat numbers and it sure looks like about a 16.6% increase in the number of seats compared to 2012, 13% compared to 2014. Possibly what, ASM increase of around 9% from now until 3 years from now?

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Damn, I guess RA and the guys are going to go all George Costanza on us eh? Do everything we've been doing... just 180 degrees in the opposite direction.

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Fly Girl 02-08-2014 06:00 PM

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Wow, curling is intense!! ;)

forgot to bid 02-08-2014 06:14 PM


Originally Posted by 76drvr (Post 1576304)
Dude, the negotiator notepads and Roadshow slides are on the DALPA website, could you source where in any of that massive amount of information put out the "union" was "pushing BIG hiring" in the fall of 2012?

SD on June 8th 2012...


While our hiring is ultimately based on the Network block hour plan, which in turn is affected by the economy, all indications are that the addition of 717s and the opportunity for pilots to take advantage of the Pilot Retirement Medical Account (RMA) early retirement option will accelerate movement across the seniority list and require us to begin hiring earlier than the planned pilot retirements alone would have. If Delta can continue to execute its business plan, including the 717s, and barring an economic downturn or other unanticipated event, we could begin the hiring process as early as the last quarter of this year.
Then we got... (condensed)

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note the red box...


Flight Operations recently announced that they are prepared to begin the pilot hiring process as early as the
fourth quarter of this year. This is consistent with the analysis contained in this Touch & Gos. Once the hiring
starts, it will likely continue at a steady pace for several years.
Also...

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Then we voted and it passed and hiring began in mass in 2012, continued through 2013 and went bonkers in 2014...

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full of luv 02-08-2014 06:21 PM

All you WB warriors.... thinking of taking the family of 5 to Rome/Venice/Naples in June. I've been there before years ago, but not with family, any lodging suggestions?


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