Here, just to restore everyone's impression of the beauty that was this sport


Michelle Kwan was the best Olympian to have never won a gold. Five world championships. Nine U.S. championships. Zero Olympic gold medals.

This is her last performance on Olympic Ice. There had been some fall out between her father and her Coach. She pressed on into the Salt Lake games without a coach. The song choice is astounding, given the circumstances ... she knew this was farewell ... there wasn't a dry eye in the place.

The sport changed on her mid career (sound familiar to us?). She came up during the final days when balance, grace, style and beauty made for winning marks. The sport moved on to greater athleticism, tricks, triples which favors the kids. Now someone wins a medal, and you never hear their name again.

They know more than you and 11,000 pilots will ever know. They have all the inside data. If you believe otherwise, you are totally clueless and naive. Good luck finding your windmill. :rolleyes:

No no... we can force them to fly into unprofitable markets just to keep an aging hub operational. Besides, we absolutely know what is really going on behind the numbers. They just lie about it all. And I'm gonna personally force Mr Anderson to put KBP back on the schedule. We'll make tons of money right up to the time that we go out of business. Profit sharing... bah!

If you believe so strongly in the wisdom and benevolence of management and place so much trust in them, then why do you support ALPA?
Is a union even necessary?

We "force" Mr. Anderson to do a lot of things that are "unprofitable". Maybe we should just get rid of that pesky contract.

Thanks, Wilbur.
I never realized the Personal Drop menu had more than one page! :eek:

Very true.

I've noticed that tsquare is opposed to any measure or initiative desired by the pilot group that would cost Delta more money. He's taken it upon himself to tamp down our costs.

PD, if you want to get rid of your trips, put them on the swap board as pick up, do not contact. One man's trash is another man's treasure. I do it all the time. On many occasions my trips have been gone in less than 15 minutes.

Hey Buzz, according my wife "benefits start date" was our 3 date. "Benefits end date" was the day we got married. Hope that helps;)

Forcing unprofitable operations on the Company and decreasing available revenue isn't the same thing as increasing pilot compensation, but you know that.

I want the Company to be able to place aircraft where it can increase revenue.... That's how the pilots can then turn around and increase value in the PWA.

If the company revenue decreases, then the ability to improve the pilot contract decreases. Ask APA how that worked out....

Go easy on T, he can be eloquent as proven a day or so ago in one post...However, I am still waiting for that eloquence to translate into his pushing of the longevity based pay...Which brings us back to your original point...

Does LBP cost the company more money or does it cost us??? And with the keeping of 40 of the 320s, a large number of the 757s and the rumor of widebody growth, how does LGP (now) get mixed into that calculus? Its day in the sun is over IMO, sorry T...

Update on the rumor...787s previously ordered by NWA moved to the front of the line, so we are talking 787-8s with further 900s afterward. There are no whitetail -900s AND yes for delivery at the end of this year.

SO...Gentlemen, I am actually beginning to believe that my company, Delta Air Lines is actually embarking on (drum roll please) organic growth!!!

Wager, Clamp is a 717A within 2 years...