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Originally Posted by dalad
(Post 1583767)
ORD-LHR starting in Oct on the 787.
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Reserve GS Question
Does the Green-slip trigger mean anything to a reserve Pilots?
In other words if I drop 2 days for MIL and my guarantee goes down to 68 for example, would a reserve green-slip pay fully above the cap or only once I get to the GS trigger would it pay above the CAP? I know I can withdraw 5 hours from the bank to get closer to the GS trigger - just trying to figure if its worth trying to get a greenie. Thanks Scoop :) |
Originally Posted by scambo1
(Post 1583622)
Rumor alert:
DAL to announce a 50 aircraft 787 order with delivery to begin late this year. And a 50 wide body RFP to Airbus and Boeing. It's a rumor but the source is impeccable. I could see something large to replace the 747-400s in a couple of years, but Boeing likes their 777-300ER a lot, and prices are high. But it's the obvious replacement. I really don't see any 767 replacements showing up until 2020 - but orders may come if there is a large growth in the Pacific. But I think that would come with a Hawaiian purchase, which then comes with new airplanes too, so then I guess no orders needed. |
Originally Posted by Scoop
(Post 1583860)
Does the Green-slip trigger mean anything to a reserve Pilots?
In other words if I drop 2 days for MIL and my guarantee goes down to 68 for example, would a reserve green-slip pay fully above the cap or only once I get to the GS trigger would it pay above the CAP? I know I can withdraw 5 hours from the bank to get closer to the GS trigger - just trying to figure if its worth trying to get a greenie. Yes: If you look at your time card, it says it right there, REG G/S TRIGGER. (Regular - ie, line holder) |
Originally Posted by CGfalconHerc
(Post 1583456)
Bar, you seem to be an intelligent Delta pilot with a lot of insight but this is one area where the more you spew, the fewer minds "see" the matter the way you want them to.
Keep it simple. Don't try to defend an indefensible position. What's done is done, and no amount of "behind the scenes" insight is going to inspire any former furloughed Delta pilot to exclaim.."yes, Bar is right..JC didn't stab us in the back, RJ pilots didn't replace us and enjoy a windfall of flight time at our expense..we should look in the mirror and blame ourselves, or at least blame DALPA." As classes fill with former RJ drivers and former furloughees get a chance to move to the left seat (still not there yet as of the last AE), we'll get a chance to discuss COMAIR at length and appreciate each others perspective. Understand I am not defending Comair. They were in a fight for their survival, they lost. As an ALPA member, I hate it for those who lost their jobs, they are brothers. But don't think you were alone in the "Comair Backstabbing" club. While we were in Section 6 Comair (under Lawson) sent ASA pilots "We Support You" stickers. That same weekend they tried to get a deal with Delta management to fly our airplanes for less pay than us, thus putting us out of work. JC Lawson did some bad stuff, but he lacked the power to do anything to Delta pilots. I ask, if it was such a big deal, why didn't the Delta MEC negotiate with Delta to hire Delta pilots at Comair? After all, Delta owned the place. |
Originally Posted by Scoop
(Post 1583854)
Correct but specifically:
The FM-1 Furloughs were TK up to the March 02, 2000 new hire class. This round of furloughs ended with the 31 January 2003 furloughs. The shortest furlough in this group was recalled in July 2004. In total 18 months off but 2 months furlough pay. The FM-2 Furloughs were all senior to the March 02, 2000 new hire class (some may have actually been in that class) who were furloughed 2 months later in March 2003 and shortly recalled after the arbitrator ruled in our favor that the second furlough was not a FM type of event. All of these guys got full back pay and had various amounts of time off. Scoop |
Originally Posted by Bucking Bar
(Post 1583887)
CG,
Understand I am not defending Comair. They were in a fight for their survival, they lost. As an ALPA member, I hate it for those who lost their jobs, they are brothers. But don't think you were alone in the "Comair Backstabbing" club. While we were in Section 6 Comair (under Lawson) sent ASA pilots "We Support You" stickers. That same weekend they tried to get a deal with Delta management to fly our airplanes for less pay than us, thus putting us out of work. JC Lawson did some bad stuff, but he lacked the power to do anything to Delta pilots. I ask, if it was such a big deal, why didn't the Delta MEC negotiate with Delta to hire Delta pilots at Comair? After all, Delta owned the place. I, like you, would like to welcome more Delta pilots on property to fly all Delta pax on Delta metal..hopefully the tide is turning in our direction toward that end. |
Originally Posted by Scoop
(Post 1583854)
Correct but specifically:
The FM-1 Furloughs were TK up to the March 02, 2000 new hire class. This round of furloughs ended with the 31 January 2003 furloughs. The shortest furlough in this group was recalled in July 2004. In total 18 months off but 2 months furlough pay. The FM-2 Furloughs were all senior to the March 02, 2000 new hire class (some may have actually been in that class) who were furloughed 2 months later in March 2003 and shortly recalled after the arbitrator ruled in our favor that the second furlough was not a FM type of event. All of these guys got full back pay and had various amounts of time off. Scoop |
Originally Posted by Scoop
(Post 1583515)
Guys,
Lots of misconceptions about DAL SCOPE history in this thread. Below is the majority of an article on the history of SCOPE at DAL from 2009. I don't agree with 100% of its content, but it is very informative. Delta connectors to buy up to 500 jets The main take away is, Delta had already ordered the airplanes well before Contract 2000. You can cut through all the blah, blah, blah by simply understanding the Delta MEC facilitated the delivery of all those airplanes on schedule. The Delta MEC did as good a job they could leveraging the situation. Whether their actions were deliberate (as I claim) or a result of incompetence (as they claim) does not matter, the result was the same. I believe I am correct on the strength of bankruptcy testimony which indicated the credits for scope allowances had been carefully analyzed and maximized. These are smart men ... the economics were tough ... but they decided where to hold the line and executed well. It has long been my contention that the politicians in office at that time would have been better served by making their best General Jessup impersonation rather than going all Gomer Pyle. http://www.jewishtribune.ca/wp-conte...7380729948.jpg Yes Slowplay, we can handle the truth. The thing is, I knew the truth before I asked the question Sir. We have the time and you may have the opportunity. Whoever restores unity to this profession will be a hero. Be that man, or someone else will be. |
Originally Posted by CGfalconHerc
(Post 1583895)
I don't know Bar, I can only call it like I saw it back at the time.
I, like you, would like to welcome more Delta pilots on property to fly all Delta pax on Delta metal..hopefully the tide is turning in our direction toward that end. Sir you know what you were told from reliable sources. To fix this guys like you and I are going to have to work together, push our Representatives and perhaps even run for Status Rep. In any political communication, what is written is an attractive shadow of the reality that takes place. |
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