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Old 03-08-2014 | 05:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Scoop
If you drop 1 day in a 30 day reserve month with 17 on call days, does pay get docked 1/30th or 1/17th?
You are docked 1/17.
Old 03-08-2014 | 05:18 AM
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If I get payback days for rolling some thunder, and I have a 3 day trip the following month, does it take one payback day to get paid for the trip or does it take 3?
Old 03-08-2014 | 06:07 AM
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Originally Posted by scambo1
If I get payback days for rolling some thunder, and I have a 3 day trip the following month, does it take one payback day to get paid for the trip or does it take 3?
All 3 days must have adequate RSV coverage and you are only paid for the days that say PB on them. It only takes one PB to drop the whole trip (similar to a PD or APD) but you're only paid if it says PB. Also remember if a trip has credit time, it is paid out on the last day of the trip.
Old 03-08-2014 | 06:14 AM
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Originally Posted by LeineLodge
All 3 days must have adequate RSV coverage and you are only paid for the days that say PB on them. It only takes one PB to drop the whole trip (similar to a PD or APD) but you're only paid if it says PB. Also remember if a trip has credit time, it is paid out on the last day of the trip.
So, from a strategy perspective, you are saying it takes 3 payback days or does it only take 2 (first and last day)?
Old 03-08-2014 | 06:21 AM
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Originally Posted by scambo1
So, from a strategy perspective, you are saying it takes 3 payback days or does it only take 2 (first and last day)?
You're talking about a 3 day with no block on day 2 (long layover?)

That's an interesting thought that I haven't ever considered. If it works, you might be able to save 1 PB day - I'm not sure how they'd work that scenario. I was more referring to a 3 day for 15:45 with low block. I've heard of guys dropping day 1 thinking they're going to get 5:15 but actually only get the hard time for that day since credit (DPA in this case) would pay on day 3.

I'd call Contract Admin on Monday morning to get a better answer. I'll see if I can find something in the meantime.
Old 03-08-2014 | 06:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Alan Shore
You are docked 1/17.


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Old 03-08-2014 | 06:52 AM
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You can actually just drop it using as few as one payback day. The strategy is to drop the most expensive day, and get paid for it, then greenslip or whiteslip inside the footprint for more pay.
Old 03-08-2014 | 06:54 AM
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Originally Posted by iFlyer
You can actually just drop it using as few as one payback day. The strategy is to drop the most expensive day, and get paid for it, then greenslip or whiteslip inside the footprint for more pay.
The question though is can you drop day 3 only and get all the credit from the trip?
Old 03-08-2014 | 07:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Scoop
If you drop 1 day in a 30 day reserve month with 17 on call days, does pay get docked 1/30th or 1/17th?

Thanks Scoop
As someone else said, you lose 1/17th. But to expand on that... does anyone know the answer to this?

Let say in the above scenario you have a week of vacation. So you have 7 days of vacation, 10 x-days, and 14 on call days.

Now if you drop a day, what are you losing? My guess is you are losing 1/14th of some pro-rated reserve guarantee?
Old 03-08-2014 | 08:14 AM
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[QUOTE=groundstop;1598081]As someone else said, you lose 1/17th. But to expand on that... does anyone know the answer to this?

Let say in the above scenario you have a week of vacation. So you have 7 days of vacation, 10 x-days, and 14 on call days.

Now if you drop a day, what are you losing? My guess is you are losing 1/14th of some pro-rated reserve guarantee?[/QUOTE]




Thanks for expanding on this as your situation is exactly what I am trying to decipher. I looked at the live contract and it just says "pro-rata" which is not to helpful in these complex cases.

I don't think your example of 1/14th could be correct because if it were than we would be charged more for a drop in a vacation month. Seems to go against the spirit of a "vacation."

Any contract savvy guys have anything to add?

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