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Originally Posted by scambo1
(Post 1620453)
The question was more about the 747 vs 777 comparison than the 747 vs 330. However, there are basic comparisons between all three that equate to range, fuel burn/measureable unit, cargo capacity and passenger capacity.
In all those measureable metrics, IMO the 744 provides the least flexibility per comparable. It may take two a330s to fully replace a 744, but that isn't necessarily cost ineffective or bad. I wasn't making that comparison, I was saying it doesn't make sense to assume the 330 would replace the 747 and T square, in his position, knows it too, and was using it as another opportunity to make a crack about LBP. It was another drive by. And his "I know something you don't, you heard it here...again", LCA comment on top of it all. Come on, man. As far as all the "metrics" go, I don't make those decisions and have better things to do than speculate on what aircraft are coming/not coming. I care that things are going well, don't get me wrong, and as a 14 year 75/76 FO, I'm finally moving up a little after a 4 year back slide, that's good. I think the 747-800, A380, 777-300 would all be ideal replacements because "bigger pays more" but until those 747's are parked in the desert, hopefully a long time from now, and the DTW- NGO or whatever route the 747 typically works, has an A330 parked at it, I'm not going to get worked up over it. It's not going to happen this year, or next, so I'm going to enjoy watching my kids grow up instead of getting wrapped up in the minutiae of Delta's order books. Sorry for the rant, I got both kids...5 and 3... In bed by 8:00 CDT and am indulging in a pop, or two. E |
Originally Posted by Big E 757
(Post 1620479)
It's not going to happen this year, or next, so I'm going to enjoy watching my kids grow up instead of getting wrapped up in the minutiae of Delta's order books.
Sorry for the rant, I got both kids...5 and 3... In bed by 8:00 CDT and am indulging in a pop, or two. E And enjoy your pop, or two, you've earned it! ;) |
Originally Posted by Timbo
(Post 1620490)
You know their 5 year plan changes every 3 weeks, when's the last time they asked the pilot group what they should buy? :rolleyes:
And enjoy your pop, or two, you've earned it! ;) |
truth be told, I dont fix planes, I dont cater planes, I dont buy planes... I may finance them... but really I just stick to flying them.
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
(Post 1620493)
well in 2012 they asked us if we wanted the 717s they just acquired... I mean offered. :D
It's Win Win! Maybe if we give up -all- of our profit sharing for C2015 they'll buy some used A319's! :rolleyes: |
Originally Posted by forgot to bid
(Post 1620456)
744/773
772/765/330 7ER/73N 320/319/M88 717 Makes sense to me. NARROW BODY. DONE! ie UPS |
Originally Posted by BigGuns
(Post 1620510)
WIDE BODY.
NARROW BODY. DONE! ie FedEX |
Originally Posted by sailingfun
(Post 1620512)
Why are you guys so happy to give up more productivity to the company?
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
(Post 1620473)
The 321 is advertised as having 185 seats in a typical 2 class. I think we have 182 in our 737-900's. It's about 3 feet longer. Not sure how all that equates to considerable larger.
Max gross on the 321 is 207,000, IIRC. That's around 20,000 lbs more than the 739. The motors are 5000 lbs more thrust per side at 33k vice 28 and change. We will be configuring them with around 192 seats. |
Originally Posted by Bucking Bar
(Post 1620532)
Because they assume they would gain:
744/773 772/765/330 7ER 320/319/M88 717 73N So if we merge with Alaska, we both have 739s, which the company stated when they purchased them that the 739 is a 757 and 763 replacement. Right? |
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