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Originally Posted by Drone (Post 1649710)

Just did the fast read with the TA next to the live contract (contract up on the DALPA website). A little nugget allows for 4 landings after an ocean crossing if they occur within the Hawaiian Islands. Hum...

Maybe I'm missing something, but it appears new.

737-900.? Islands supposedly going to be the first ER destination.

Doesn't make sense though. Alaska proved that you can not fly a 900 off of OGG or LIH and go to the west coast if you want to carry the people and bags. They had to tech stop in HNL to get gas. (Landings before crossing, not after)

Not sure why they'd need a tag on after crossing unless of course they plan on inter island.

Heard in school house beach market after the islands.

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Originally Posted by gzsg (Post 1649796)

A true lesson in leverage.

In my opinion, if we rejected C2012 we would have had a better deal in 48 hours.

We stood together and killed CDO and got a deal in a matter of hours.

The message is crystal clear, the line pilots will accept not he less than a minimum 20% snap up date signing C2015 in our hourly rates.

No concessions. No reduction in profit sharing. No reduction in sick leave. No concessions.

Overall agreed.

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Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1649793)

75As have lie flats but that's a lie flat Business Elite seat. I see them using First Class and Business Class interchangeably and Business Elite is separate. I don't fly them though but the language is unchanged since 2008 and the 75ERs back in 08 weren't lie flats. i remember they didn't even have a spongebob, it was something else used for the footrest but i can't remember if it was the seat or something we put on the floor.

What is a spongebob?

-80 (domestic dude)

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Originally Posted by tsquare (Post 1649769)

Sorry, in the edited post I was axing where the LOA is published. I am still curious as to how this could be agreed to by the company so fast...

As I stated many posts ago this was never something the company wanted badly. It was a solution pushed more from our end to the 30 layovers based on some pilots wanting CDO's back. The cost was very high for the company to fly them. Follow the money, it's never wrong!

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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 1649802)

What is a spongebob?

-80 (domestic dude)

It's the big wedge thing we used for a foot rest. Could also be used as a liberator.

The Official Site of Liberator Shapes - Sex Furniture, Adult Pillows

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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 1649799)

Some really cool footage of the F-16:

Being a Navy guy, I'm going to have to go ahead and correct you. That is an F/A-18.

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Originally Posted by crazyjaydawg (Post 1649823)

Being a Navy guy, I'm going to have to go ahead and correct you. That is an F/A-18.

Niel Trap!

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Originally Posted by JungleBus (Post 1649771)

I think the MEC really thought the pilots wanted them & was caught a bit unawares by the uproar when the LOA was unveiled.

If this is true, it is very sad. 15 or so guys at an LEC meeting propose this nonsense and my MEC thinks this is what 11500+ guys want?

If this is how tuned in our MEC is to our pilot group, I am more than a little concerned for our 2015 negotiations.

BTW, words matter... I will repeat my post from yesterday.

SOS, in this industry, has always meant the nuclear option, i.e., Suspension of Service. (All wheels come to a complete stop.)

Our national union, in one email, has changed that important acronym to mean Save our Skies... very significant.

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Originally Posted by LivingTheDream (Post 1649837)

Was there a recent resolution? I know there was one from 2010 and it was shot down.

So this is the conundrum wrt the resolution system isn't it? If the MEC blows off a resolution passed at an LEC meeting, they are not being responsive to the pilots. If they adapt it, then they should not be listening to just 15 pilots.

What should they do? (This is not a rhetorical question) poll the whole pilot group after every resolution is passed? It is not unusual for the MEC to consider 30 local resolutions at one meeting. The phone lines at our homes maybe ringing off the hook. At that point, we have just about eliminated the needs for reps at all as we are just about to the point of a direct democracy.

That being said, I have no idea how the MEC got to the point where they were considering something as controversial as CDOs without much more input from the pilot group. Many pilot sponsored issues are no brainers and great ideas, this one was not.

Either way, the pilots that are willing to stay informed were able to turn the tide. Good on ya!