OK, somebody catch me up. I have been bouncing all the way spilling coffee all over the airplane for the last 6 hours from JFK to SFO. CDOs are dead. got it. Great great news. But don't the negotiators have to go back to the company to discuss that? We had an agreement in principle did we not? How is it that we can unilaterally cut out the CDO portion and still have an agreement. Must have been a contingency??? However it happened, I like it.

Alright so I'm reading through LOA 14-01 and Reserve Rules Changes and I'm trying to figure out this paragraph...

If you're in the middle of reserve days and it's 1900 and you haven't gotten a call then you at least know that you won't be given an assignment before 7am. If you turn off your phone at 2200 and hadn't gotten a call then you know at that moment you won't have a show before 10am, 7am is not an issue.

Amirite? Because if they call you at 0300 and you wake up at 0700 and notice the call then yes you need to be able to be at work at 1500, it's not 12 hours from the moment you notice the call.

So you technically can now be given a 1000 SC on day 1 of reserve but you're not required to acknowledge anything or look at anything on your day off per FAR 117. So at 0000 they call for 1000sc, you're on the hook for the 1000sc but of course you can exercise the 2 hour option so really you're arriving at 1200 which would've been the same as getting a trip at 1200.

Of course on reserve I got more than a few "how quick can you be here?" And they were for go times under 2 hours. Seems to me the company isn't stupid, they'll probably stick to 1200 and save the headache of guys saying I'll be there at 1200 but no I won't be pushing at 1200 if that's what you're hoping for.

Disregard.. I found it.

Ftb,

I think they are saying you turned your phone off at 1900 and then went to bed at 2200.

Denny

Found the answer to your first post or something else? I'd kind of like a summary too. I read through the entire days worth of posts and my understanding was that the pulling was done by the company and the NC today?

I'm just curious too.

Almost, not quite right. At 0000 the earliest SC they could assign would be 1200. In order to assign anything between 1000 & 1200 on the first day, it had to be on your schedule at 1500 the previous day. That's what I got out of the LOA email, anyways, correct me if I'm wrong...

Edit: just realized what you're saying. If it was on there at 1500 but you never looked at it, they could call at 0000 for the 1000 SC. My bad.

Sorry, in the edited post I was axing where the LOA is published. I am still curious as to how this could be agreed to by the company so fast...

That's the pretty amazing part in all this. Per the MEC blastmail sent out at 2230, the MEC recessed between noon and 1500 so the NC could go back to the company. Only took 3 hours to bang out a revised LOA. Cost the company 30 more pilots, cost us an estimated $2 mil, I say we both benefited from increased safety. It seems the company really wasn't pressing for CDOs, as sailingfun posted yesterday. I think the MEC really thought the pilots wanted them & was caught a bit unawares by the uproar when the LOA was unveiled.

Quickie: So if I put in an APD for one day of a four day, ADP will appear on the entire rotation -- (no ability to GS/WS on the other 3 days?)

Check,

I agree with you that management could have made this pretty ugly for DALPA. But, I think it's also likely that they acted in their own self interest.

We had a forum full of pilots who almost to a man characterized an upcoming policy to be unsafe -- or, at least less safe than what they had before. Delta watches this forum. Delta knows the increased liability something like that would create if something ever did go wrong. Delta did not want that.

IMO ( <=== Hows that, index? :) ), if that's what happened, Delta made a smart, legal, business decision today.

Good for them and good for us for expressing ourselves. ;)