|
|
Originally Posted by GogglesPisano
(Post 1687477)
With every PCS run (0700, 1200, 1700, 2200 Mecca time*). Next month's run doesn't start until the 20th.
* (these times are submission deadlines. The actual runs could be minutes/hours later.) |
Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
(Post 1687197)
What it looked like to me was that she was doing the standard talking head thing- just a bunch of words somewhat pre-programmed and not really listening. No matter the combination of letters, all the news agencies just go hog wild in this stuff and the talking heads show their true mindless colors.
Guess this illustrates my respect of the drive by 24-hour news agencies. :) |
Originally Posted by Carl Spackler
(Post 1687469)
Well, you've been flying the line for the last two years anyway. Before that, not so much.
This half truth comes up from time to time. In the past, the reason this was true is because the exact same names just shifted to different committee chairs. As is so often the case with you, while your statement might be technically correct, it's very misleading and specifically designed to mislead. Now the reason this is true for the last two years is because of the breach of trust displayed by committee members during C2012. You all got fired. Again, very misleading for you to infer that there is healthy turnover within the DALPA top-down power structure. Half truths, deep distortions and purposely misleading statements don't help your credibility either. Do you not think I will check? Carl |
Originally Posted by Alan Shore
(Post 1687067)
Indeed. I'm looking forward to seeing the Contract Comparison that's supposed to be out soon to see how the rest of our contract compares with theirs.
Now we see the spectacle of sailingfun posting completely wrong information about United and a union leader like shiznit backing it up. Then The Manager posts the actual truth about United's pay. The sad truth is that when the contract comparisons come out, it will have to be strongly vetted under the assumption that DALPA will again slant the comparison to make us look better than we are...so our expectations will stay nice and low. Carl |
Originally Posted by shiznit
(Post 1687089)
Alfa has spent more time working to put more money in Delta Pilots' pockets and increase Delta Pilots' time off to spend with families than anyone else here.
Originally Posted by shiznit
(Post 1687089)
Assigning motive to the efforts of someone you've never met is pretty disgusting.
Originally Posted by shiznit
(Post 1687089)
Your dislike of his perspective and position does not detract from actual results he's helped produce.
Originally Posted by shiznit
(Post 1687089)
In fact, your unwillingness to do anything other than lob nonsense from a keyboard versus actually step up and do some work is quite an "unmasking of your benefit" to the pilot group.
For example: fly4hire may have a different perspective than alfa, but he actually put his time and energy into helping his fellow pilots' lives also. I respect that effort, its a thankless and time consuming job. Actions speak much louder than words, so PD I guess that makes you well, a nothing. Enjoy the ignore list. Carl |
Originally Posted by tsquare
(Post 1687467)
While what I have highlighted might be true... you are painting only a small part of the picture. Before you go and anoint the APA as having done something, why don't you do a few TVM calculations as to how much career earnings they LOST their membership over the last 10 years. Money that they will not make up if they top our numbers by probably $100/hour. If you want honesty, you need to exhibit some too in this regard. And their contract is mostly a "me too" type of contract with some minor improvements. Had it not been for ours, they wouldn't have gotten anything neqr what they got.
Wow T. Track here if you can. Note: this is not about the APA. It's not about DPA. It's not about ALPA. This is about pattern bargaining . You might think it is "a small part of the picture or some minor improvements," as you say, but it is the new bar. If we don't exceed that bar, we don't do our part to lift the profession. Then tell us all how TVM works if we are locked into rates that are $40 an hour less on the a330 and 76-4. That is going to be significant shortly when the RFP is announced and it's loaded with NEOs. |
Originally Posted by alfaromeo
(Post 1687108)
Because every good conspiracy needs a boogyman to complete the story. Any time you hear "entrenched bureaucrats" or "unelected volunteer" you are hearing someone develop the boogyman to accompany their conspiracy theory that translates into human talk as "I lost an election and now I am looking for blame."
Originally Posted by alfaromeo
(Post 1687108)
The same people that say I think I am "the smartest guy in the room" also attribute some type of Jedi mind control to me where I get the elected reps and the entire pilot group to vote against their interests for my supposed nefarious motives.
Originally Posted by alfaromeo
(Post 1687108)
As you said, the reps are more than capable of making their own decisions, it's extremely insulting to think that they would so easily be swayed to vote one way or the other.
Originally Posted by alfaromeo
(Post 1687108)
Speaking of motives, these people cannot come up with a logical reason why I and others would try to sabotage the contract. I get the same pay rates as every other Delta pilot, work under the same rules as every other Delta pilot, I am not independently wealthy, and I work this job to support my family just like everyone else here. Why on Earth would I not want to make our contract the best possible? What is the motivation here?
Carl |
Originally Posted by Herkflyr
(Post 1687242)
When will you realize that in our capitalist system that ALL profits, are by definition, the property of the shareholders?
Now, what are profits? The difference between revenue and expenses. When will you realize that a union's job is to maximize our take of the expense side of the ledger?
Originally Posted by Herkflyr
(Post 1687242)
Like it or hate it, that is the very definition of a for-profit entity. The company "returning" profits to the shareholders via dividend or stock buyback is just a way of allocating what is already theirs via a different vehicle (versus paying down debt, investing in infrastructure, investing in employees, etc).
Originally Posted by Herkflyr
(Post 1687242)
I don't begrudge them that because unlike prior regimes they have actually made this company a better, more profitable place. How much of a percentage pay increase did Bill Gates get between founding Microsoft and retiring? Does that mean that every Microsoft employee gets a $10 million dollar salary in order to match his percent increase in pay? (In fact, unbelievably, Microsoft just announced 18,000 layoffs. This from a hugely profitable company).
Originally Posted by Herkflyr
(Post 1687242)
These are all great. I hope that we get them all. Will you acknowledge that we already have restored and even improved upon many, many work rules?
Originally Posted by Herkflyr
(Post 1687242)
In fact our work rules now are far better than they were in C2K. (Unless that is you liked the era where reserves could fly a 2-day trip that paid as little as 4 hours for a trip that paid a regular pilot 10.30, and you liked it that the company and not the pilot, scheduled your CQ sims, and where every vacation started on Sunday, because by golly that's how we always did it. I could go on but you get the idea).
Carl |
Originally Posted by Timbo
(Post 1687306)
And that would be fine with me, but only IF...
We got paid like management; in addition to our base pay, we too got stock options, performance bonuses (at more than $25!) a fully funded retirement plan...oh, and a zero cost, zero deductible medical plan, for life, oh, and PS passes...for life. I just hope Ed is -finally- able to sleep at night. Why is that tool still working here?:rolleyes: For the NW guys, he's the only DL South mgt douche to keep his job, after testifying to the BK judge that he couldn't sleep at night, worrying that Delta wouldn't survive unless he ass-raped us. Bless his heart. Carl |
Sweet Jesus. I just checked in here during a nice long vacation to see what's going on. So far it appears all I missed was Carl's return, and tired old strategy of repeating the same BS over and over hoping someone will mistake it for the truth.
Do I get to drink every time Carl says "top down"? :cool: Carl, are you guys gonna finally stand down your campaign, as promised, now that we're approaching 2015? It's beyond tired now. What exactly are you attempting to achieve here? My favorite part is how you DPA'ers recoil anytime someone suggests you do some actual union work. If it were such a good deal I would think you'd be all over it. Guess its easier to complain about the efforts of others. |
| All times are GMT -8. The time now is 04:34 PM. |
|
Website Copyright © 2026 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands