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Originally Posted by iaflyer (Post 1651413)

I don't think it's contractual. Well - not directly. I think it comes from the fact that any report time on SC has to be in your SC window.

So - say you go off short call at 11am. Since the call out is about two hours, anytime after 9am the report time for a trip should would be after 11am. So - there isn't any use for you after 9am. Therefore - scheduling would release you after 9am because they effectively couldn't use you. (They can't assign a report of say, 11:15 because then you aren't on SC anymore).

Yep, and that language didn't change in the LOA, so whoever was saying that about the early release was not correct.

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Originally Posted by GBU-24 (Post 1651354)

Can someone pass on the their non-reving tips for getting out of CDG?

Check the non-hub cities...CVG/PIT/PHL/ORD(winter). They operate less than daily, but the loads can be spotty and they don't have the last minute HK problem the hub cities have.

Choose wisely the morning of your flight, because you're dealing with AF to check in. To swap to a different flight you will most likely have to go back out to the main check in area, gate agent can't/won't do it.

Good news is that there are several inexpensive but nice hotels either attached to CDG or with a free shuttle.

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Originally Posted by Dirtdiver (Post 1651430)

I learned the hard way last year that the agents in Paris will upgrade regular coach passengers on an oversold flight. With 20 business elite seats open prior to boarding, not a single nonrev got on the flight because coach was oversold by 20.

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Originally Posted by DLpilot (Post 1651438)

The agents in any city will do that. They will always move up oversold coach passengers to 1st class before they allow non revs on.

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Originally Posted by Delta1067 (Post 1651295)

Of course the CONS get implemented asap while we have to wait until November for the PRO's, like ADG. Way to go DALPA

You have the right to your opinion but when you directly complain about the group that is solely responsible for your being here it strikes a nerve. You don't have constructive ideas just complaints.

Another way of looking at it from your specific perspective is that if it wasn't for DALPA you would forever be at Endeavor and not have to wait until November for anything. But hey you got yours from them and that's the past so buck them right?

BTW this has absolutely nothing to do with any other flows whatsoever.:cool:

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Originally Posted by Delta1067 (Post 1651443)

The agents in any city will do that. They will always move up oversold coach passengers to 1st class before they allow non revs on.

But the froggies actually enjoy doing that......

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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler (Post 1651315)

IF that's true, it's a stunning display of incompetence by our side. Stunning. Lack of communication led to the pilots revolting, leading to our side begging management to save them, leading to management feeling they had the hammer to take back what they previously agreed to. Did we really just throw away the differential of 5:15 ADG between June 1 and November?

If true, words absolutely fail me.

Carl

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Originally Posted by Delta1067 (Post 1651295)

Of course the CONS get implemented asap while we have to wait until November for the PRO's, like ADG. Way to go DALPA

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Originally Posted by Purple Drank (Post 1651348)

That is a bombshell. Need to repost after the long holiday--deserves a full discussion.

Let's just nip this in the bud now.

FACT:The 5:15 ADG for pay and credit was NEVER required to be implemented before November. Not with the original LOA, and not with the amended LOA.

FACT:The Company will not be able to use the FDP tables unless we get our ADG. If the Company can get their "sh%T in one sock" and get the staffing and IT where it needs to be sooner, then they can implement ADG/FDP.

OPINION:
It will lead to some months of hiring a few more bodies than originally planned (over and above the increased plan) and create even more vacancies on the next couple AE's to get the staffing up to what the new LOA will require the company to maintain starting in NOV.

FACT:
The Company did have to "convert" A320 Captains early just to make the ALV/staffing component for that fleet, so quite a few guys got 2-8 weeks off with CA pay before they even went to training.

OPINION:
Manning is unbelievably tight right now, hence the Company's need for lead time on implementing contractual staffing changes that benefit the pilot group by 130+ pilots.

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Originally Posted by shiznit (Post 1651479)

Let's just nip this in the bud now.

OK.

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Originally Posted by shiznit (Post 1651479)

FACT:The 5:15 ADG for pay and credit was NEVER required to be implemented before November. Not with the original LOA, and not with the amended LOA.

Awesome. Please post the negotiator's notes and implementation agreement prior to the removal of CDO's.

Carl

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Originally Posted by JungleBus (Post 1651378)

I'll add to this - Air France is not ID90 anymore, they're ZED, with tickets issued electronically via the myidtravel link on travelnet, and DL employees get special lower-than-standard "JV Fares." You'll find departure taxes out of CDG are quite a bit more expensive than the ZED fare itself.

The one other thing I'll say about CDG is get there plenty early. I assume we're still using the AF check-in desks, and the queues last time I was there were quite long.

Don't know if this is still the case, but if I recall correctly you can't see what seats are assigned to standbys out of CDG. Not so with some other European locations I checked that we fly out of. Annoying.

Thanks to all for the info on CDG...

From experience what is a good show time for checkin in CDG?