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Originally Posted by index (Post 1663351)

Since you're having trouble following the discussion, let me help you out.

I was referring to sailing's ongoing butchering of the English language, not T's.

T has other problems, but he can at least write and spell correctly. And you have to give him credit. He went to Tennessee! :D

You're circling your wagons around the wrong amigo.

What's your problem with memory rat? :)

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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 1663364)

This is why I keep saying how bad you are at interpreting data. In 2012 we were still firmly in the displacement cycle and the awful churn that went along with it.

The other airlines were still fully separate with much less complex fleets.

I was hoping I wasn't the only one to see that. :rolleyes:

The discussion is worthless because, as of now, I don't see how Sailing is proving we are one of the least efficient airlines.

And here we go again...

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Sectarian violence in Iraq sent the price of oil skyrocketing on Thursday, propelling both Brent and West Texas Intermediate up more than two percent amid growing concerns about a threat to global supply.

After a delayed reaction to turmoil raging in the country, oil prices soared as open warfare between rebel forces—threatening a reconquest of the country barely a few years after U.S. forces departed—and the government spilled on to the world stage. Iraq is a member of OPEC, second only to Saudi Arabia as one of the world’s largest producers of crude.

With violence threatening Iraq’s civilian population and overwhelming the country’s security forces, a shadowy group known as the Islamic State in Iraq and Sham (ISIS) has managed to seize control of key cities including Mosul, the country’s second-largest, Ramadi, Falluja and Tikrit. Fears about global supply mounted, as reports surfaced that Russian tanks had moved into beleaguered Ukraine, sending crude on a tear and overwhelming the impact of lackluster U.S. economic data.

but this time we have Trainer. So what does this mean for Delta if the prices skyrocket?

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Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 1663308)

I agree the data is old however the items you are discussing should make them more not less efficient going forward.

OK... I am not going to pile on, because I am totally lost in this whole discussion. Since you were the one that brought it up initially, let me ax you what you meant by "efficient".

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Originally Posted by tsquare (Post 1663378)

OK... I am not going to pile on, because I am totally lost in this whole discussion. Since you were the one that brought it up initially, let me ax you what you meant by "efficient".

He was defining efficiency as block hours per pilot.

Nevermind how overstaffed we were in 2012 and the constant displacements churning around then...

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Originally Posted by tsquare (Post 1663378)

OK... I am not going to pile on, because I am totally lost in this whole discussion. Since you were the one that brought it up initially, let me ax you what you meant by "efficient".

Whatever he meant by it, apparently he meant it at the end of 2012. :D

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Originally Posted by Timbo (Post 1663327)

If our pilot group is inefficient, it's largely due to Management's fleet planning and all the pilots we have stuck in training for all those different types. Then there's the maintenance training costs, as well as the spare parts for....everything!

But...be careful what you ask for, if they ever decided to streamline the fleets, down to say, one type narrow body (A319,320,321 family) and one wide body (A330's) they could get rid of 25% of us and still fly today's schedule, and you'd only have to go through one new school in your career. Think of all the money they could save just on spare parts alone, not to mention all the DH'ing we wouldn't be doing any more.

"Inefficient" pilots means more pilot jobs.

But who's idea was it to operate all those different fleets?

Not the Pilots!

Management made "Inefficient" fleet choices, not us.

If we are not efficient, it's their fault, not ours. They created their own efficiency problems, now they expect us to fix it for them...??

But, given the last two airplane orders (A321's/A330's) it looks like Richard is moving to make the fleet more efficient going forward, replacing 757/767's with Aribii. I doubt we'll see any more new Boeings ordered. 10 years from now, we could be down to two or three (Airbus) fleets.

Thinking 73/77/78and 32/33/35

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Originally Posted by iceman49 (Post 1663397)

Thinking 73/77/78and 32/33/35

You're probably right... but don't forget that the 88s, 90s, and 717s will be flying until somewhere around 2050. ;)

It's the White Engine Crowd

https://www.deltamuseum.org/images/s...3.jpg?sfvrsn=6

vs the Blue Engine Crowd

https://c2.staticflickr.com/8/7042/6...8c7f8093_z.jpg

We may not be bigger but we do last longer.

:D

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Originally Posted by iceman49 (Post 1663397)

Thinking 73/77/78and 32/33/35

Delta net has a story reporting that Emirates cancelled its A350 order worth 16 billion. Could be some serious discounts for Delta and early production slots if we went with the 350 instead of holding out for the re-engined A330NEO.