The Dow Transports are down 117 points due to the unrest in Iraq and a spike in oil prices.

Okay, so it's a buying opportunity....dyodd blah blah.

Thx MDM

I had heard it said this would happen in the June 13 paycheck. You might call the ALPA office to see for sure.

Agreed....

Exactly right.

In 2012, we were fully merged. Done.

In 2012, Parker was the head of Us Airways and someone else was the head of American Airlines. They were completely separate. I'm not sure what SWA and Air Tran are doing right now, but I still see Air Tran flights whenever I'm in Atlanta. I believe they are still operating separately, too.

You admit that they latest full year data you have is from 2012 and claim that, besides Hawaiian, we are the least efficient. But, in 2012 the airline landscape was completely different than it is now. American had furloughs on the street and hadn't even announced a plan to merge with US Airways.

It's not the same American, it won't be the same Southwest, and I won't even get into what I'm hearing has been going on over at United.

So, I guess I'm asking, how is it that you are comparing our efficiency with airlines that are completely different than what they were in 2012?

I believe whatever data you are using to make that claim is obsolete.

Thanks Alan, will do.

I believe myopic would be your stance that this way is the way it's always going to be. Some of us have 30-35 years left. We have strives to make at US/AA. This career has had troubled years. How have you not matched SWA's heavy lifting of the 737 pay rates? They have had you substantially blown out of the water on those scales for years. Isn't that where your rates should start? We are all in this together. Hopefully we can help raise the bar in the future. I appreciate the bar lifting you have accomplished.

You do realize that many frequent posters on hear post on smart phones, while on the van, etc. I am sure that most of the posters on hear have made similar mistakes - I know I have. :)

I care more about how Sailing defines "efficiency" as a Pilot group.
Why does block hours flown trump revenue produced?

Just as a 777 gives us a revenue advantage per Pilot the multiple fleets gives us a block hour disadvantage per Pilot.

If DALPA has to explain our inefficiency block hour wise before the NMB why doesn't the company have to address the revenue advantage that we produce?

We as a Pilot group must not accept this inefficiency argument as valid and counter it whenever it comes up.

Sailing is correct in that it will be one of managements main arguments for C-15. I have heard concerns about both block hours flown, and sick leave used at different times from DAL leadership personnel. This leads me to believe there is some kind of top down push regarding these issues.

There are many ways to define efficiency as a Pilot group - block hours flown is only one and in my opinion not as important as revenue produced per Pilot.

Scoop

Also, on DLNET a news blurb that included, "Lufthansa Airlines warned investors this week that its profit would be as much as 33 percent lower than initially forecast this year, causing U.S. airline stocks to fall.

According to the Germany-based carrier, the cause of its lower profit is due to labor problems, currency issues and intensified competition from Middle Eastern carriers."