Agreed. Particularly when the same business plan that drives the higher revenue also drives the lower block hour efficiency. Revenue dollars generated per pilot dollars spent is what we should be measuring.

If you are looking at your paystub on Deltanet, I don't think it would be a separate line item. The amount would be included in the FLT PAY line which makes it hard to know if it's there or not. The way to ensure it's there and do the accounting is to look at your Pay Statement in iCrew for the 02MAY14 bid period. Those pay statements are not yet available for viewing in iCrew, so I don't think you will be able to clearly tell if you were paid for it or not until the pay statements are available. When the pay statement is available, you should see a separate line item for the pay to reimburse for the PD(s). If you don't, call ALPA and ask for the scheduling guys. Be prepared to give them screenshots of your pay statement because they don't have access to that.

Thanks for the reply. I keep track of each paycheck and am certain it's not in there. As a reserve it's pretty easy to know what I should be paid since there's not an additional 4:12 in it. Good idea with screenshots. I still have them from when I received the CPR and pay deducted. I'll look for the Pay Statement as well. Good idea. Thanks.

THIS ^^^^^

Not sure about T's grammer but eye understand most don't half half the insight then he do!:D

I agree the data is old however the items you are discussing should make them more not less efficient going forward.

If our pilot group is inefficient, it's largely due to Management's fleet planning and all the pilots we have stuck in training for all those different types. Then there's the maintenance training costs, as well as the spare parts for....everything!

But...be careful what you ask for, if they ever decided to streamline the fleets, down to say, one type narrow body (A319,320,321 family) and one wide body (A330's) they could get rid of 25% of us and still fly today's schedule, and you'd only have to go through one new school in your career. Think of all the money they could save just on spare parts alone, not to mention all the DH'ing we wouldn't be doing any more.

"Inefficient" pilots means more pilot jobs.

But who's idea was it to operate all those different fleets?

Not the Pilots!

Management made "Inefficient" fleet choices, not us.

If we are not efficient, it's their fault, not ours. They created their own efficiency problems, now they expect us to fix it for them...??

But, given the last two airplane orders (A321's/A330's) it looks like Richard is moving to make the fleet more efficient going forward, replacing 757/767's with Aribii. I doubt we'll see any more new Boeings ordered. 10 years from now, we could be down to two or three (Airbus) fleets.

I guess the question I'm asking is: How do you know the other airlines are more efficient now (in 2014) when the data you are basing it on is from 2012 when the airlines were completely different then?

I actually think you and I agree on this subject, and I apologize if my last post came over as a little arrogant. It wasn't my intent. However, SWA has never done any heavy lifting. If you have 30+ years left, you need to do a little research on that. They have taken small incremental pay increases for at least the last 20 years, and everybody else fell back to them. I remember when they signed a multi year contract back in the 90s, and everybody was wondering what they were thinking. Their 3 and 4%/year increases have been far more valuable over the years than our 12.5% increase in the last contract.... but we are getting there.

Since you're having trouble following the discussion, let me help you out.

I was referring to sailing's ongoing butchering of the English language, not T's.

T has other problems, but he can at least write and spell correctly. And you have to give him credit. He went to Tennessee! :D

You're circling your wagons around the wrong amigo.

This is why I keep saying how bad you are at interpreting data. In 2012 we were still firmly in the displacement cycle and the awful churn that went along with it.

The other airlines were still fully separate with much less complex fleets.