Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 1663104)

The closest I have been to management was having the CEO of Delta personally threatening my job over my stand on furloughing pilots.

Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 1663104)

I had the guts to sign the letters and take action beyond a web board.

Originally Posted by newKnow (Post 1663187)

2012? What were the other airlines doing back then?

SWA/Air Tran
United/Continental
American/US Airways

We were fully merged, fully integrated, and flying every non-fenced aircraft fleet together. United just got their seniority list together.

Now that all of these other airlines have started the process to merge, I bet they will be less efficient.

(Compared to how the other airline mergers have been going, you should probably be making the argument that we are among the most efficient pilots in the world.)

With that being said, I wouldn't be all that afraid to go to the NMB to fight an efficiency argument that the company poses. IMO (for index :) ), we could easily win that one.

Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1662989)

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C2012 allows Delta to outsource flying to Alaskan Airlines.

Delta has decided not to do that. What Delta is now going to do is compete against Alaskan requiring SEA growth and hey we need to hold on to jets we were going to retire.

So clearly the reason we're expanding is because of C2012.

Originally Posted by Alan Shore (Post 1663076)

...and what might those be? The last comparisons we all saw showed that our work rules are very much in line with other major carriers, particularly now that AA and UAL have matched our contract.

It is my understanding that our overstaffing has led to more reserve guarantee being paid out than at other airlines, and that our long trips have resulted in more trip credit. I see no way of resolving either of those productivity issues without lowering trip credit and/or reserve guarantee to something less than our competitors.

Not interested. I believe it's all in the fleet plan, which according to the slide show at recent PUB events is giving Delta a 7% premium over industry-average fares. That's huge, and is almost certainly well worth the productivity premium they pay us.

Originally Posted by Alan Shore (Post 1663119)

Are you suggesting that the NMB will look at the fact that Delta chooses to use us less efficiently and expect us to help mitigate that cost by giving up rigs or guarantees that are industry standard? I fully hope for and expect more of them than that!!

Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 1663204)

Call me totally confused by your post. If we are further along in the merger process then are competitors we should be more efficient not less. I think you have it backword. Parker just talked about needing to progress in their merger to increase efficiency.