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Carl Spackler 06-13-2014 03:04 PM


Originally Posted by newKnow (Post 1664096)
He probably shouldn't respond, Index. Depending on what he is alleging, even though whoever RA is, is a public figure, sailing could be sued for libel/defamation.

He should have kept it to himself to begin with.

It never happened guys, fud just made it up. Non-heroes trying to paint themselves as heroes rarely works.

Carl

Denny Crane 06-13-2014 03:08 PM

You know what, you guys are really turning me off to coming here much any more. You may not agree with Sailingfun, I can see that but questioning his integrity, I don't agree with that. Weren't most of us Officer's and all of us Gentlemen? I'm really kinda disgusted with the turn things have taken the last few days.

Denny

newKnow 06-13-2014 03:23 PM


Originally Posted by Denny Crane (Post 1664195)
You know what, you guys are really turning me off to coming here much any more. You may not agree with Sailingfun, I can see that but questioning his integrity, I don't agree with that. Weren't most of us Officer's and all of us Gentlemen? I'm really kinda disgusted with the turn things have taken the last few days.

Denny

I actually agree with this. If he said he did it, he did it. It doesn't matter to our careers. What does matter is why he thinks we are inefficient compared to the other airlines. :D

Elliot 06-13-2014 03:26 PM


Originally Posted by Carl Spackler (Post 1664192)
It never happened guys, fud just made it up. Non-heroes trying to paint themselves as heroes rarely works.
Carl

Thought you were going back to "luker" mode, Carl? At least that is what you stated in multiple posts. I guess you "just made it up?" :rolleyes:

Purple Drank 06-13-2014 03:30 PM


Originally Posted by Gearjerk (Post 1664206)
Thought you were going back to "luker" mode, Carl? At least that is what you stated in multiple posts. I guess you "just made it up?" :rolleyes:

remember when you had another hissy fit and said you were quitting APCF? that lasted what, a day?

shiznit 06-13-2014 03:33 PM


Originally Posted by Gearjerk (Post 1664093)
IIRC, United has 17% DC in their contract. To effectively pattern bargain, we need 18%+.


Originally Posted by United Pilot Agreement
Section 22 - Retirement
22-A Defined Contribution Plan
Except as otherwise described herein, as of the effective date of this Agreement each Pilot shall be eligible to participate in a defined contribution plan providing for a sixteen percent (16%) direct employer contribution with respect to Eligible Earnings paid under the terms of this Agreement. Each such plan shall be subject to all applicable requirements set forth in this Section 22, as well as to each plan document agreed to by the Company and the Association, which shall not be modified, amended, or terminated, except as required by law in accordance with the procedures set forth in Section 22-C-6, without the Association’s consent and which are incorporated herein by reference.


Originally Posted by TheManager (Post 1664106)
Was unaware. Excellent! Pattern up DALPA.

What is so nice about this, we don't have to give anything up to get it which is of course what DALPA says when there is no one to pattern off. :D

INCORRECT!!!!! Your blind hatred for D-ALPA success is clouding your ability to see reality.

DAL patterned up on themselves C2012.
UCAL patterned up on DAL.

Originally Posted by UAL PWA 2003 Letter 03-16 (bankruptcy)
C. Pilots Directed Account Plan Modifications
The following modifications apply to the United Airlines Pilot Directed Account Plan (the "PDAP"), with respect to both the qualified and nonqualified portions of the PDAP, effective June 1, 2003:
1. Company Contribution. Effective for earnings received on or after June 1, 2003, the Company's contribution to the PDAP is reduced from 11% to 9%.
2. Participant After-Tax Contributions. The Company will resume allowing participants to make after-tax contributions to the PDAP as soon as administratively feasible.


Originally Posted by CAL 2005 CBA (Sect. 28-4-B)
E. Company Contributions to B-Plan.
The Company will make monthly contributions to each pilot's account under the B-Plan in an amount equal to the following percentage of the pilot's Compensation each month, as defined in Section 28, Part 4.G below.
For Compensation paid during July 2005 through June 2006 - 6.75%
For Compensation paid during July 2006 through June 2007 - 10.00%
For Compensation paid after June 2007 - 12.75%

Seriously guys, if you're going to have an "IIRC", at least use facts...You can go here to find out... It's 2 stinking mouse clicks, I'll make it 1 for you:United Airlines | AirlinePilotCentral.com

NERD 06-13-2014 03:33 PM

I agree. Little bit of bully/mob mentality going on. I don't always agree with him, but he brings a more moderate opinion in some cases. This isn't the ALPA forum.


Originally Posted by Denny Crane (Post 1664195)
You know what, you guys are really turning me off to coming here much any more. You may not agree with Sailingfun, I can see that but questioning his integrity, I don't agree with that. Weren't most of us Officer's and all of us Gentlemen? I'm really kinda disgusted with the turn things have taken the last few days.

Denny


Elliot 06-13-2014 03:34 PM


Originally Posted by Purple Drank (Post 1664211)
remember when you had another hissy fit and said you were quitting APCF? :rolleyes:

You and Index are too funny to stay away too long. I can already tell that C2015, C2018, C2021 is going to be a "no vote" for you girls. (Just like your girl's ice is too cold, and coffee is too hot, nothing will be good enough and it's really too bad that life is that miserable for you tweenies.

Denny Crane 06-13-2014 03:35 PM


Originally Posted by newKnow (Post 1664204)
I actually agree with this. If he said he did it, he did it. It doesn't matter to our careers. What does matter is why he thinks we are inefficient compared to the other airlines. :D

Absolutely NewK! In no way was my post directed at you.

Denny

Carl Spackler 06-13-2014 03:35 PM


Originally Posted by Denny Crane (Post 1664195)
You know what, you guys are really turning me off to coming here much any more. You may not agree with Sailingfun, I can see that but questioning his integrity, I don't agree with that. Weren't most of us Officer's and all of us Gentlemen? I'm really kinda disgusted with the turn things have taken the last few days.

Denny

Part of being both an officer and a gentleman is to not exaggerate, not stretch the truth, and simply tell the truth. When guys don't, you've got to call the guy out on it. Sorry if you find that unpleasant Denny, but letting it go unchallenged is unpleasant too.

How do we stop the unpleasantness, everybody just tell the truth.
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And post underboob.

Carl


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