Thinking of going to the 88 Bar?:eek:

Actually, I think I did that once.

You might be able to call crew resources and wiggle out of it, I was unsuccessful when I tried, but that was a long time ago.

Probably all new people in crew resources by now.

The "Problem" is, as soon as the bid is awarded, your freeze begins. You can't bid something else, even if you haven't been scheduled for school, until your freeze is up. If you are not under a freeze, ie. you bid same equipment, different base, then you can bid another base (same equipment) every month if you like. But you still have to be "Converted" into your new base, before you can bid out of it!

Clear as Mud?

great hockey game, wanted a different outcome but nice matchup

Ditto.

That was pretty exciting double OT!

The Rangers had plenty of chances, hit the post, missed a wide open net, etc.

Now they go to NY and they had better win them both there!

LA doesn't even know what hockey is, let alone " The Cup"!

http://my.chicagotribune.com/#story/...ings-20140602/

Game 7, Kings vs Blackhaws, had over 800,000 homes in Chicago and not even 1/5 for the same game in LA! Pathetic!

If you want the general population in LA to watch it, you've got to put it on Rims (22's!). :eek::D

Chris Rock- Rims - YouTube

I get it. Nothing has changed. :D

So, I'm pretty sure United has our same pay rates, just a year behind. And now American seems to be connected to the average of Delta and United.

I've got buddies at UAL and they are telling me that their company is even blaming them for their loss last quarter. I don't think they have much of a chance of negotiating a industry leading contract. Or, if we wait for them, we will be waiting for a long, long time.

So, from what I see then, everyone is connected to us. We have to lead the way. Right?

Recycled this one from the past. All numbers directly from the USAirways merger transition agreement. So, as you can see, they have already raised the bar.

Side note. Those that say we don't have leverage. You are not correct. We need unity. Once we have unity we have all the leverage we need.

Don't think so? Just wander over to the Cargo forum and read about the drafts happening now and the resulting service failures at FedEx.



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Originally Posted by Imapilot2
Will they ever be a help though? one of my American jumpseaters said their contract will look at us and united for what work we have done and they will get that average. they will never set the bar and do the footwork to raise it in the future, they will only ride the coattails of our work. not sure about the truth to that...just repeating his words.




Here is the truth.

Read below to see how they eventually top Delta by $40 per hour in the 767-400, a330 etc.

THE USAIRWAYS MERGER TRANSITION AGREEMENT

Effective on the the date of P.O.R. Which is 12/9/13.

First, some work rules.

This agreement provides for a 1:2 for sit times in excess of two hours.

Distance learning: 50% of hourly rate.
Training: 4:00 per day. (Delta 3:45)

Defined contribution: Currently 14%
January 2014: 16%
Delta: 15%

Sick:
5 hours accrued per month
60 short term banked
940 long terms bank
1000 total and with rollover.
Allowed to sell back.

Rapid re-accrual of 7.5 hrs if out more than 30 days
United has 7hrs
Delta no rapid re-accrual, no rollover, no sell back and capped at 270 max.

Home basing in cities that support it.

COMPENSATION: All 12 year rates. 777 rates reflect group 4 which include 777, 767-4, 787, 340.

Next week on POR, the first raise.
A320 capt. 167.68. F/O 114.02
B777 capt. 213.02. F/O 144.00

January 2014. 8% increase.

A320 capt. 181.00. F/O 123.14
B777 capt. 230.06. F/O 156.44

January 2015. 3% increase.

A320 capt. 186.53. F/O 236.06
B777 capt. 236.00. F/O 161.00

January 2016. 16.5% increase.

A320 capt. 217.24. F/O 147.72
B777 capt. 275.98. F/O 187.67

If needed, on January 2017 a 3.5% increase. On January 2018, a 3.5% increase.

Why if needed you might ask? Here is the rest of the story.

From the MTA:

"MTA provides parity review that compares DAL and UAL as of January 1, 2016. The parity review will use the average of the DAL and UAL pay rates of the A320 and the 737-800 aircraft weighted for the ASM's flown by each airline."

The other groups will be adjusted from there.

Now, when the APA (USAPA will be offered a seat at the table along with the west pilots) negotiates their JCBA, these numbers can change. Likely up, not expecting down.

Other considerations. AMR pilots getting near $100k each from their portion of the company on exit/merger. Frozen DB plans.


Overall, the APA did well. If we are still in section six in 2017-18, they top us by $40 per on the 330/767-4.

That was a pretty nice bar they set.

Personally, I'd never complain about the 4 hour penalty lap in Atlanta if we had their 1:2 after a two hour sit.


The extra cabbage they get in the 401k be nice too.


http://www.rpaycompany.com/wp-conten...-bar.png?w=300

This is it! :D