The post was winter 2011

So what is behind door number three then? Hold out, or take the 3/3/3/3 (lulz)... or.... ? And how long will we have to hold out. I'll go on record, and you can copy this Carl for your trophy wall... as saying I do not care how long it takes. TVM is a myth,:rolleyes: (That Buffett guy is such a moron) and all I want is a bigger paycheck anyway. :D

Have fun with that one....

The funny thing is Carl I have no intention of accepting 3,3,3 or anything close. Throw 12.8 out upfront and 4,4 you will however have my interest depending on the rest of the package.
My point is simple. Management is not going to run their pilot costs way above the rest of the industry without a long drawn out fight.
You seem to think that if DALPA just demands the company will throw money at us. Sadly that's not going to happen.

He knows that. He also knows that 3/3/3/3 won't even remotely pass. He's just being Carl.

Then why don't you link the post? Regardless, here's what you said.

Again, the answer is no because I never predicted (or predicated) management was liquidating the airline. I just stated the fact they were doing so when they were doing so. Then further stated who knows how long it will last.

Is this what you need to do to deflect from how often you are flat out wrong?

Carl

We are about 10 months from exchanging openers and already the usual suspects on both sides are sharpening their swords. This thread has become sadly predictable.

There will never be "unity" as long as DALPA/management operatives are here managing expectations ever lower.

MD preaches unity, while allowing--directing?--his hacks to undermine line pilots' efforts to attain our max potential in C15.

Crazy, really. I can't figure out what we're getting in return for our dues money. Just another bureaucracy-bred layer of blubber trying to keep itself fat, all the while becoming more and more out of touch with the line pilots' wishes, I guess.

If I had to predict, the NC will bring the reps a signed TA something close to that with the cost of those pay raises fully funded by concessions in other areas. You will quote the MEC administation's mantra of a huge victory and the time value of money. Management will tell Wall Street that the pilots have agreed to another cost neutral contract. DALPA will say we got a billion dollars out of them without showing any data to prove it. MEC will pursue massive sales and fear campaign. You and sailingfud will do what you always do. Then it will pass 60-40.

It all depends on when Richard tells our "union" that it's time to sign a new contract.

Carl

If I had to guess, I'd say it's still TVM, only in this case he thinks it will take that long for the TVM balance to work out in our favor.