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sailingfun 06-30-2014 09:12 AM


Originally Posted by gloopy (Post 1674915)
If they aren't going to use the large RJ's, that sounds like a free way to tighten up scope at one of the most egregious levels. While we're at it, there is another constructive opportunity to roll back the AS code share abuse potential by tightening it up as it shrinks naturally. Another pilot group shouldn't have the permanent ability to flex up an entire coast's worth of flying just on general principle.

As for more 717's, are there any credible sources? There were some laying around before we got ours from SW, but once we did they all seemed to magically disappear. Either an orphaned airframe with so-so CASM suddenly got popular with tiny LCC's around the world or there is some creative claim staking going on akin to some of the early dotcom domain name land grabs.

At least we don't have to put delta-air.com on the napkins anymore though. :D

Probably the same thing is happening with the 717 as the MD90's. Once the word was out Delta wanted them the price quickly doubled. Might have to wait a few owners out.

Fly4hire 06-30-2014 09:14 AM


Originally Posted by BigGuns (Post 1674830)
What is the best place and price to get a suitecase? I need a new one... Best brand?

Luggage | Stop-Over Store

Luggageworks, get the metal framed. Expensive, but will last a career, and all components are replaceable and repairable.

gloopy 06-30-2014 09:15 AM

Maybe instead of trying to take away the American taxpayer subsidies to EK and the other fake royal emerati, we can just lobby for a "me too" clause. To include blanket immunity from those pesky US labor laws and litigation of course.

We can fly hourly brand new 777-300's to every dot on the map with nothing but hot 20 year old skinny FA's too, to please big strong western businessman, for great success!

tsquare 06-30-2014 09:20 AM


Originally Posted by gloopy (Post 1674915)
If they aren't going to use the large RJ's, that sounds like a free way to tighten up scope at one of the most egregious levels. While we're at it, there is another constructive opportunity to roll back the AS code share abuse potential by tightening it up as it shrinks naturally. Another pilot group shouldn't have the permanent ability to flex up an entire coast's worth of flying just on general principle.

As for more 717's, are there any credible sources? yes... LCP meeting There were some laying around before we got ours from SW, but once we did they all seemed to magically disappear. Either an orphaned airframe with so-so CASM suddenly got popular with tiny LCC's around the world or there is some creative claim staking going on akin to some of the early dotcom domain name land grabs.

At least we don't have to put delta-air.com on the napkins anymore though. :D

I get what you are saying... and for the most part I agree with the "egregious" part of your post. But the company will want something for those rollbacks. How do you value that? I really don't want to pay any more for that than I do the RJ flying and getting rid of those provisions won't be free.

gzsg 06-30-2014 09:30 AM


Originally Posted by Purple Drank (Post 1674820)
Briefly:

1) I never predicted massive job loss. You, on the other hand, kept "spewing" about 300 early outs leading up to C12. How did that work out?

2) the "Reality" is that in this age of record profits for the company, you constantly attempt to tell us we shouldn't strive to reap rewards commensurate with the company's success.

3) granting concession after concession with record profitability doesn't square with my definition of a "remarkable result."

Your analysis is complete garbage. . Kindly stick to posting facts and we're all much better off.


You post is spot on except he promised the top 500 would retire early. Part of a long list of threats and empty promises to get us to sell a cost neutral PWA.

This time everyone is paying attention and that nonsense won't fly.

newKnow 06-30-2014 09:31 AM


Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 1674581)


Originally Posted by Timbo (Post 1674606)
That is friggn' hilarious! I watched a couple matches today, and the amount of flopping was obscene! I only wish it were from sniper fire! Thanks for the laugh 80K!

That's one of the main reasons I hate watching the NBA, nowadays. It's a different game from when Jordan, Johnson, and Bird were playing.


If I wanted to watch acting, I'd go to the movies.

iceman49 06-30-2014 09:32 AM


Originally Posted by Fly4hire (Post 1674937)
Luggage | Stop-Over Store

Luggageworks, get the metal framed. Expensive, but will last a career, and all components are replaceable and repairable.

Agreed, mine is 15+ years

badflaps 06-30-2014 09:32 AM


Originally Posted by BigGuns (Post 1674830)
What is the best place and price to get a suitecase? I need a new one... Best brand?

Pedal on over to Regional, big discussion there recently.

filejw 06-30-2014 09:51 AM


Originally Posted by newKnow (Post 1674954)
That's one of the main reasons I hate watching the NBA, nowadays. It's a different game from when Jordan, Johnson, and Bird were playing.


If I wanted to watch acting, I'd go to the movies.

Sad thing is even the NHL has a problem with "diving" they they call it. Word is next year they will be handing out 4 min minor penalties for Embellishment ...

sailingfun 06-30-2014 10:05 AM


Originally Posted by gzsg (Post 1674952)
You post is spot on except he promised the top 500 would retire early. Part of a long list of threats and empty promises to get us to sell a cost neutral PWA.

This time everyone is paying attention and that nonsense won't fly.

I did not promise anyone would retire early. The union put out 300 as the expected number. The actual number was 196. The interesting thing was that the pilots who took the program were much younger then the targeted group. They were looking at the 63 to 65 guys, they got the 59 to 61 guys. I take that deal any day as it has a better effect then 300 older pilots.


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