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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler
(Post 1708858)
...a majority of our reps and ALPA national don't want restoration. They want partnership and cooperation.
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Originally Posted by DAL 88 Driver
(Post 1708827)
Your idea of "asking for it" seems to be along the lines of C2012.
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Originally Posted by Alan Shore
(Post 1709102)
So run for LEC rep in the next election and help that majority become a minority.
That's democracy. Carl |
Originally Posted by Carl Spackler
(Post 1709117)
My reps don't feel that way. But they are the minority.
That's democracy. |
Putting you on the ignore list doesn't solve anything. Why not just treat people with respect? I'm singling you out only because yours is the most recent example. Even I'm responsible for the same horrible behavior. Let other people act like fools. Don't respond in kind.
Purple Drank had issues getting his point across. He has toned down his rhetoric and others are starting to listen. I don't skip his posts anymore. Thanks PD!! Carl has his moments. When he's on a rant I know I can skip a whole page. The next day, after a nice sleep, his posts seem knowledgable and readable. We all seem to have our own distinct personalities on this site. (-: I can almost hear your blood boil when you've read some of Alphas posts. If I stand on my roof I can see the smoke rising from your house. Lol. Beware, the zombies near you are attracted to that kind of stuff!!! The alphas and sailings of the world need to figure out a way to reach the Carls and 88's without dismissing them. Respect definitely goes both ways. It's also earned. Keep up the fight. I'd like a big raise!
Originally Posted by DAL 88 Driver
(Post 1709078)
I get it, scambo. I'm sorry, but I'm not going to let Alfa badger or intimidate me into silence. He's wrong on what is best for this pilot group, doesn't understand the big picture when it comes to business, and he's extremely disrespectful to anyone who doesn't subscribe to his world of everything being about spreadsheets and numbers. He's one of the very few people on this forum that routinely is arrogant and condescending to those who disagree with him. It makes civil debate impossible when he jumps into the fray.
Sorry. I'm just calling it the way I see it. If you don't like it, then you could always put me on your ignore list or go read the BBQ Blog on the DALPA site. ;) |
Originally Posted by Alan Shore
(Post 1709104)
Would you be kind enough to find for me the post in which I even suggested that?
__________________________________________________ ________ Originally Posted by Alan Shore: Quote: Originally Posted by flyallnite http://www.airlinepilotforums.com/im...s/viewpost.gif ...it starts with asking. Are we at least planning to do that? The answer I get from my reps is a resounding yes. Quote: Originally Posted by flyallnite http://www.airlinepilotforums.com/im...s/viewpost.gif Or is DALPA just going to phone this one in too, paying for tiny raises with more onerous give aways and concessions? I don't agree for a minute that that's what happened last time. __________________________________________________ ________ flyallnite is asking if we are at least planning to ask for something more significant in C2015 than what we asked for in C2012. You answer that your reps have indicated a "resounding yes." Then flyallnite asks if if DALPA is just going to "phone this one in too" like they did with C2012. You answer that you don't agree for a minute that that's what happened in C2012. So... I don't see how you can have it both ways, Alan. You indicate that you and your reps expect a significantly better performance with C2015, but then you indicate you think they did just fine with C2012, which implies no improvement needed. :confused: |
Originally Posted by hoserpilot
(Post 1709122)
Putting you on the ignore list doesn't solve anything. Why not just treat people with respect? I'm singling you out only because yours is the most recent example. Even I'm responsible for the same horrible behavior. Let other people act like fools. Don't respond in kind....
I can almost hear your blood boil when you've read some of Alphas posts. If I stand on my roof I can see the smoke rising from your house. Lol. Beware, the zombies near you are attracted to that kind of stuff!!! And if you've read many of my posts over the years, you know I try to stay above board. As you point out, none of us are perfect. But I try hard to keep it respectful the vast majority of the time. Unfortunately, sometimes the line gets crossed and I respond in kind. I think sometimes that is about the only way to handle it. I don't believe you'll find many examples (maybe none?) where I've initiated that. Alfa crossed that line a long time ago. I have a very low threshold of tolerance for him. Sorry. |
There are a lot of limitations with your ignore suggestion, 88 Driver, but it may be worth a shot.
Some posters have a template through which they try to force every current topic. There are two things or three things they say, over and over again. They view any and all conversation as an excuse to broadcast those things. Having exchanges with them is futile, because nothing you could possibly say will make them change their mind: their ONLY purpose here is to see their view prevail. When they're hijacking a thread as completely as you and a few handful of others, then possibly the ignore function MIGHT work. It's not as good as, say, having you refrain from continuously preaching to the "idiots" that disagree with you, but since this is where you and some of the others have taken the L&G... why not try? |
Originally Posted by scambo1
(Post 1708959)
Firstmob had a post that speculated that the RFP was going to be bigger and more eye watering than we think.
I've heard of some non RFP used planes in the works, but nothing about an expanded RFP. |
Originally Posted by scambo1
Firstmob had a post that speculated that the RFP was going to be bigger and more eye watering than we think. I've heard of some non RFP used planes in the works, but nothing about an expanded RFP.
Originally Posted by firstmob
(Post 1709147)
Bingo, we have a winner!:):)
Now this is a Latest and Greatest post I think we all enjoy seeing. |
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