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Originally Posted by Jughead (Post 1708927)

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Purrrrrrrrrrrrrrrfect, Jughead. Well done. I was looking for a Monty Python clip, but this works very well.

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Originally Posted by TheManager (Post 1708694)

I will add this to my original post. If it turns out this person who misdirected the website had or has any Dalpa or ALPA connections, Mr. Seham will be filing a lawsuit.

Our dues money will go to defending it, and if that suit is lost, then even more of our dues money goes to Seham and Caplinger. Then I'm positively certain there will be even more ****ed people here.

Can you affirmatively state then, on the record here, that no one currently associated with Dalpa or formerly associated with Dalpa, had anything to do with the "hacking?"

I honestly believe that DPA is done if they unmask the individual and it is a singular person not associated with ALPA that was truly just misbehaving.

On the other hand, if it turns out that any of the misdirection had Dalpa ties, well then ALPA just breathed more life into the waning DPA movement.

You are very well connected in the MEC, and in a position to know. So, care to make that confirmation?

Oh, and I'll take no response from you as a denial, fair enough.

Unless something has changed, this was posted just 2 days ago.

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Originally Posted by alfaromeo (Post 1708013)

Well, if you remember, when this was going on I was dealing with a serious family issue and therefore I know very little about it and care even less. I saw the data dump from their DNS tables and was asked for my opinion and I gave it to the person who asked.

I read the transcripts and filings as they become available but I have no idea of Mr. Private Writings and I really don't even know what "Mr. Private Writings" means. I assume you mean the pilot who allegedly hacked the website. I don't want to know ever who this is because I don't want to have anything to do with this sham case.

All I know is that if DPA had a shred of evidence that this person was directed by ALPA in any fashion to do this alleged "hacking" (which I don't believe occurred and I believe that DPA f-ed up their DNS entries and then tried to cover their incompetence) they would have sued ALPA because ALPA has more money than a single pilot does. Therefore, all your insinuations are pure BS because there is no evidence that ALPA was involved in any way. I only know that because DPA is not suing them.

But, hey, let's all jump on the crazy train and assume that DPA is correct. Let's say some Delta pilot hacked their website and posted nasty notes for a couple of days. How is my supposed future union going to act? Are they going to take his house away from him? Get him fired? Please let me know what our new "union", supposedly dedicated to Delta pilots, is going to do to him. Everyone involved in DPA should ask themselves some hard questions. What if in the future you decided you don't like DPA? Are they going to sue you and take your house because you criticized them or mocked them? Seriously, a union is supposed to protect pilots not drag them through the courts. This is simply disgusting behavior.

I will say it again. Every single time DPA puts out some missive about this case, it includes a "SERIOUS and URGENT" call for more funds. Coincidence? Let's all read the transcripts when they come out and find out exactly how badly DPA got spanked in court the other day. They "won" nothing. They were forced to conceal the identity of the pilot that ALPA knew about (and I don't) because ALPA tries to protect pilots and DPA tries to persecute them. It's pretty simple. Why should any pilot be stupid enough to give money to attack a fellow Delta pilot in court? Who are they going to go after next? Explain that please.

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Originally Posted by DAL 88 Driver (Post 1708937)

You don't think C2015 is relevant to a discussion of "Any Latest & Greatest about Delta?" :confused:

Well there was an entire thread devoted to that discussion. Why not go back to it? I feel like I am back on that old worthless alpa webboard that was nothing but fighting from both sides.

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Originally Posted by DAL 88 Driver (Post 1708822)

You are an idiot because you were so easily able to write off half the value of our profession without even attempting to fight for it.

I'm on your side 88, but name calling doesn't win an argument.

Alfa's pretty far from an idiot. It's really his agenda that is the issue isn't it?

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Originally Posted by tsquare (Post 1708861)

Most of the reps now in office have come into being since the merger.

This isn't a north versus south thing tsquare. It's a simple case of the majority of our current reps do NOT want pay restoration. They prefer partnership and cooperation.

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Originally Posted by tsquare (Post 1708861)

You continually badmouth them and say they aren't interested in restoration.

It's not badmouthing them, it's a simple statement of fact. A majority of them truly believe that cooperation with management is more important than restoration, or defending our scope language.

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Originally Posted by tsquare (Post 1708861)

How do you then know that your boys will fight for restoration? What makes your doughnut clowns more capable and worthy of battle?

We'll never know because DPA won't be the bargaining agent for C2015. This conversation is about our current union and our current reps.

Carl

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Originally Posted by DLpilot (Post 1708946)

Well there was an entire thread devoted to that discussion. Why not go back to it? I feel like I am back on that old worthless alpa webboard that was nothing but fighting from both sides.

You should go back there. I hear they have some pretty great BBQ recipes now! ;)

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Originally Posted by scambo1 (Post 1708952)

I'm on your side 88, but name calling doesn't win an argument.

Alfa's pretty far from an idiot. It's really his agenda that is the issue isn't it?

Good point. His agenda is idiotic.

(Although don't forget that Alfa was the one who first brought up the term "idiot." I'm thinking if he can't stand the heat he needs to get out of the kitchen.)

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Originally Posted by Sink r8 (Post 1708896)

How many pages do you have to go back to find something that's either Latest OR Greatest?

Firstmob had a post that speculated that the RFP was going to be bigger and more eye watering than we think.

I've heard of some non RFP used planes in the works, but nothing about an expanded RFP.

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Originally Posted by DAL 88 Driver (Post 1708936)

I said it wasn't a perfect analogy. But I do think it makes a valid point.

Yep. We're the proverbial "prettiest pup in an ugly litter." See below...

You're a 767 Captain, right? Here's what your rate was in 2004: $267.52

What is it today in 2014 (10 years later)? $219.62

In order to have the same buying power as the 2004 rate, today's rate would need to be at least: $335.92 (And that's using published inflation. Arguably, it might need to be considerably higher than that.)

Yep. Performance does count! ;)

You completely omit the most important fact. In business the most important thing is your cost structure relative to your competitors. Lose control of your costs and you will lose the business. The NMB believes he above and regardless of what you believe we have to work through the NMB to get a contract. Those who have ignored that fact have had zero success.

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Originally Posted by Mem9guy (Post 1708777)

Yes you can, but it has to be a short first day because your time up until noon is not considered rest.

Also, it would work if the first duty period were a deadhead only duty period, as that would not be an FDP and would not require the 10 hours of prospective rest under the FAR.