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It appears Delta and Innovative Support Services have canceled the cockpit upgrade. Wonder what this means for the fleet? I cannot imagine with fuel prices diving downward that the fleet will be replaced anytime soon. Perhaps Honeywell or someone else will be supplying a new screen and software interface. Thoughts? See the link below for news release.

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/innova...000000975.html

This is consistent with what I've heard from a number of sources. I haven't gotten a 100% definitive answer on this... but I'm pretty sure the Pegasus FMS (with GPS) would meet the requirements to keep the airplane flying in the future. Several of the MD-90's already have Pegasus, so we know it can be done. I would think this would be a less expensive if not ideal solution. The new screens would have been nice but what we've got now (in terms of flight displays) works just fine.

RockyBoy

10-06-2014 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by buzzpat (Post 1741339)

I don't get all the "rest" comparisons with truck drivers. In fact, it's a counterproductive analogy. LOTS more lives involved every time we get into the seat. Many more dimensions and complicating environmental factors. We accept far more risk and responsibility every single leg.

Apples to bananas.

I know. I opened up the can of worms and Alan decided to somehow pitch a fit that I said our rest rules sucked. My point was that just because we are "legal" doesn't mean we should start a duty period. A truck driver did that and went to prison for 5 years. So if we get CDO's, even if they are legal, and we head back home the next morning fatigued....you could lose a lot more than your job. That was my point, not that we should compare ourselves to truckers.

galaxy flyer

10-06-2014 05:55 PM

Carl,

So out of date--keyboard FMS, no SVS In the HUD, no graphical flight planning. Needs update!

GF

gzsg	10-06-2014 05:58 PM

Reading an article today about Delta that said the pilots were the only employees to lose their pensions in Chapter 11 and that is why our pension debt is so high compared to our peers.

Is that true?

If so, shouldn't DALPA be educating the pilots about this and sharing the number of our total pilot concessions? Over $15 billion and climbing?

TeddyKGB

10-06-2014 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by buzzpat (Post 1741339)

It is Apples to Oranges or Bananas. Huge difference. The trucker can't head bob and take a nap like pilots do. Ever flew a crossing where a pilot in the flight deck took a little snooze? Any questions?

daldude

10-06-2014 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by gzsg (Post 1741391)

Actually only half the pilots lost their pension. Half had theirs frozen and is still being serviced by Delta.

buzzpat

10-06-2014 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Delta1067 (Post 1741409)

Yeah, he can pull over at a truck stop, shower and sleep, right?:rolleyes:

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