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Can you white slip a spill over trip that would go into vacation in the following month? What are the outcomes?

LOL, no. You can't WS a trip that has a conflict with something not "droppable" like training and vacation.

You CAN WS a trip with a conflict in the next month, and if there is coverage it will drop the next month's trip WITHOUT PAY protection... lots of guys surprise themselves with this.

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Originally Posted by boog123 (Post 1770984)

IMO, the shuttle operation is what will drive the schedules, as the product will have better logistics without crews flying in to perform the flying. I am told, back in the day, the crews loved the shuttle because they were home a lot at night and no layovers. Of course, everyone lived there, so…..

Maybe I am wrong, but my guess is that December will not be as "anomalyish" as people hope.

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Originally Posted by DALMD88FO (Post 1770914)

You need to remember that a lions share of the flying of the NYC 717 is going to be shuttle, so there will be a good many 1 day trips. They are going to get "see America" trips but I wouldn't imagine it's going to be in the next couple of months.

Why do you think the category went so junior. Once it stabilizes more senior guys will be bidding the category, which is another reason to hold off for a little bit. I don't know how many times I've heard guys complain about being a reserve guy when they jumped on the first bid and could hold a line only to get bumped back on every bid after that.

Here is a little bit of trivia for you guys. Marking the regular line holder only box on a bid does not guarantee you a line all year round. Because we have seasonal high times and down times you may only get a line during the summer months.

BOS Shuttle flying has been flown for a long time, and because of the flight/duty mix the schedules will probably not change with FAR117. When the flying was mixed into other base flying (DTW320/DTW717) it takes on a different structure. When a base is too small to build a complete "shuttle schedule" and the other base flying is mixed in it will be a less than optimal mix. Once the NYC717 base is built up and can support the full shuttle schedule, then you will see a mix of 1, 2, 3, 4 day trips. There are less 2 days on a typical shuttle, but many 3 days and a few 1 and 4 day rotations. Give it some time.

A minimum staffing for one shuttle takes about 30 crews, so until you are up to that as active in base, it will be a more piecemeal operation... Add the DCA Shuttle back in and you will be talking 60+ in each seat just to operate shuttle (not that I think DC shuttle is coming back to mainline, but you never know). Who knows if they will staff for shuttle flying and then build up for "see America" or just cobble it together until it's all viable for the base.

Congrats to 10,302..... Enjoy your BOS and Kew Gardens layovers!

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Originally Posted by Mem9guy (Post 1771085)

I guess AE results can vary widely depending on where you sit. Despite 717a in NYC going well junior to me, I managed to move backwards as an ATL 320b.

Oh well...

I was doing the math and it seems those on the junior end of the category actually move up since there seems to be a net loss of 4 senior guys on the 320b. So I guess senior guys move back and junior guys move up on this AE. :confused:

Yeah, I'm a newhire ATL320B. I only moved up net +2 (10 out, 8 in), but 12 more were added below. We may not be moving up, but the bottom is moving down. At least that ups our % in category.

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Originally Posted by BlaneO (Post 1771248)

Yeah, I'm a newhire ATL320B. I only moved up net +2 (10 out, 8 in), but 12 more were added below. We may not be moving up, but the bottom is moving down. At least that ups our % in category.

I hope you aren't complaining? I spent (up until recently) the last seven years moving backwards with every AE. Any movement forward I'll take!:)

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Originally Posted by BlaneO (Post 1771248)

Yeah, I'm a newhire ATL320B. I only moved up net +2 (10 out, 8 in), but 12 more were added below. We may not be moving up, but the bottom is moving down. At least that ups our % in category.

Kids these days!:eek:

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Originally Posted by BlaneO (Post 1771248)

Yeah, I'm a newhire ATL320B. I only moved up net +2 (10 out, 8 in), but 12 more were added below. We may not be moving up, but the bottom is moving down. At least that ups our % in category.

If you watch stuff like that now, your gizzard will give out before you get your ten year pin....

Happy Thanksgiving to everybody!!!!!!!

Interesting to think the guy who started this thread can be a Captain now.

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