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There is no reason on earth why the final language of proposed amendments to our contract should be debated and ratified in secret.
The rank and file Delta pilots deserve more respect than that. Publish the LOA. |
Originally Posted by Check Essential
(Post 1775723)
There is no reason on earth why the final language of proposed amendments to our contract should be debated and ratified in secret.
The rank and file Delta pilots deserve more respect than that. Publish the LOA. |
Originally Posted by Check Essential
(Post 1775723)
There is no reason on earth why the final language of proposed amendments to our contract should be debated and ratified in secret.
The rank and file Delta pilots deserve more respect than that. Publish the LOA. |
Originally Posted by flyallnite
(Post 1775581)
Thanks everyone, I was able to confirm a hotel today, I think my letter was lost in the mail. It'd be nice if they had the option to just email it all to you. For initial school, they don't put anything on your schedule, just that you're in training. See y'all on VA Ave!
That's my story and I'm stickin' to it! :) Denny |
Originally Posted by Check Essential
(Post 1775723)
There is no reason on earth why the final language of proposed amendments to our contract should be debated and ratified in secret.
The rank and file Delta pilots deserve more respect than that. Publish the LOA. This has certainly been a tactic of the "machine" and it's followers. This is one area where I agree with Carl with regards to the "administration" and their influence on such subjects. For some MEC reps, it is almost like hero worship. Whatever the admin says goes... not the other way around. And trust me, there are several folks in the admin that wish they didn't have to deal with the MEC at all. If you don't believe it, show up at the C44 meeting on Sunday and watch them (or their shills) attack the only rep that doesn't block vote based on the Admin's wishes. |
Originally Posted by Qwyjibo
(Post 1775478)
Received an email from Council 20 (DTW). After reading their email, I have three big beefs with the LOA about to be voted on:
(1) Apparently the MEC will not allow us (the rank and file membership) to see the current flying levels that set the baseline numbers from which this LOA will be based. So even though the LOA provides a future percentage (based on number of ASKs) we don't know where we are starting from. So are the new percentages a good deal or bad deal? Hard to tell (unless I'm missing something). (2) Why won't the MEC agree to formally publish the TA prior to the vote? My LEC reps say the MEC claims they'd have to do "roadshows" if that happens. Really? Send out some talking points with all of the facts laid out and let us decide! (3) As others have stated, the LOA seems to allow for the company to be out of compliance every other years. I know this was hashed out by some here as of late, but I can't believe we are letting this happen without more of a fight. Unacceptable. I'd much rather see a penalty in place should the company once again violate the JV balances we've agreed to. And I don't want to hear "we'll grieve it when that happens . . . ". Good work Council 20. You seem to be the one LEC who still stands up for the rank and file pilot! - Kwyjibo Don't worry, we'll get em next time. |
Originally Posted by forgot to bid
(Post 1775629)
So how did one put a green slip in if they weren't in the crew room?
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Originally Posted by Check Essential
(Post 1775723)
There is no reason on earth why the final language of proposed amendments to our contract should be debated and ratified in secret. The rank and file Delta pilots deserve more respect than that.
Publish the LOA. We elected our Reps. We have known the VA TA was being worked on for a year and have had ample opportunity to provide input. The Reps directed the negotiators and the negotiators negotiated the language which is being considered by our MEC. We have no reason to believe the MEC is (or has authority to) make post agreement modifications to the language. This isn't a bill in Congress. It is negotiation with management. Do you not trust that your Reps and your MEC, who are all line pilots, fought for more wide body flying? Did you fail to notice Delta's wide body RFP was decided in a way that provides growth just about the same instant an agreement was reached on the TA? I have no idea if any of these facts correlate and outside of a properly small group of people who have access to Delta's strategic business plan, none of us knows. I'd love to have an intelligent debate on the merits of this agreement, but neither of us has the data, yet. The Negotiating Committee will eventually publish a notepad document. Until we read that document there is a lot of factual data we just don't yet have. What we do know is that we elected the best candidates and we all agree on wide body protection and growth. We know that management respects a negotiating team who has the full support of their pilots. The Dude supports his MEC and negotiators. It is in our mutual best interest to empower our MEC. ------------ In other news, if anyone is looking for a good pilot watch, here is a deal: Hamilton Khaki Aviation H64514581 Men's Watch Same movement as the TAG Heuer Aquaracer Chronotimer and a couple of their F1 watches. Hamilton is a Swiss company now, but was the supplier to the US military through WW2 and has a rich history. They bought a Swiss watchmaker and eventually the organization moved. ... anyway, high end thermo-compensated Sapphire watch for low end Seiko money. |
[QUOTE=Bucking Bar;1775910]Should we follow the established process, or run amok? ...
...What we do know is that we elected the best candidates and we all agree on wide body protection and growth. We know that management respects a negotiating team who has the full support of their pilots. The Dude supports his MEC and negotiators. It is in our mutual best interest to empower our MEC. ------------ "Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man." I like your opinion. I just wanted to use a quote from the Dude. |
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