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Old 02-06-2015, 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by EdGrimley View Post
Delta is feeling generous with it's growing stockpile of cash these days. Hopefully that equates to historic pay raises for it's pilot group.

Delta Air Lines donates $1 million to Zoo Atlanta - Atlanta Business Chronicle
It would be nice if they took care of their own monkeys:

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Old 02-06-2015, 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun View Post
Ouch, does not help a bit. I thought you were 3% below our rates which would have triggered a raise. Your actually 6% below our rate.
If our ER rate is a composite 75/76 rate, why did we negotiate to compare with the other airlines 757 rates? It seems like we are not really comparing rates for like aircraft that way putting us at a disadvantage.
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Old 02-06-2015, 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by NWARet View Post
It turns out the helicopter Brian Williams was riding in DID get hit by enemy fire. CNN spoke exclusively with the pilot of Williams' chopper:

...Rich Krell, who was piloting the Chinook that Williams was on, tells a slightly different story than the crew members who spoke to Stars and Stripes.

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Williams was in the back of Krell's aircraft along with three other NBC staffers. Krell referred to his Chinook as the "second bird" in the formation. The "first bird," right in front of the "second bird," was struck by the RPG.

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All three of the helicopters were hit by small arms fire, Krell said, supporting Williams' past claims about that.

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The three Chinooks took evasive maneuvers. Krell's helicopter dropped off its payload, then met up with the other two about 45 minutes later. That may explain why the other crew members told Stars and Stripes that Williams arrived in the area later.
Was that before or after he saw dead people floating by his hotel during Katrina?

He's toast.
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Old 02-06-2015, 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by NWARet View Post
It turns out the helicopter Brian Williams was riding in DID get hit by enemy fire. CNN spoke exclusively with the pilot of Williams' chopper:

...Rich Krell, who was piloting the Chinook that Williams was on, tells a slightly different story than the crew members who spoke to Stars and Stripes.
That guy basically recanted his story: Pilot in Brian Williams scandal: 'I am questioning my memories' - Feb. 6, 2015
CNN’s media critic Brian Stelter announced to viewers this morning, adding that pilot Rich Krell now says his “nightmares of Iraq have resurfaced…and he is no longer standing by his story.”
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Old 02-06-2015, 03:11 PM
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Old 02-06-2015, 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Mem9guy View Post
If our ER rate is a composite 75/76 rate, why did we negotiate to compare with the other airlines 757 rates? It seems like we are not really comparing rates for like aircraft that way putting us at a disadvantage.
The key word there is negotiate. I suspect we asked for something better. It's the end product. We did not specify which 757 type so perhaps there is some hope. Here is the contract section.

2 4. If, during any consecutive rolling 18-month period, the Company grants an across-the-board increase in base pay rates to non-pilot U.S.-based workgroups covering 30% or more of its non-pilot U.S.-based workforce, then a review of pilot composite hourly rates will be triggered. If, as a result of that review, it is determined that, as of the date the review was triggered, the Delta top-of-scale 757 Captain composite hourly rate is less than 100% of the average of the top-of-scale 757 Captain hourly domestic day rates at United and American, the pilot composite hourly rates will be increased (except as provided in Section 3 B. 4. Note). The amount of increase will be the lesser of the percentage difference between the Delta top-of-scale 757 Captain composite hourly rate and 100% of the top-of-scale average 757 Captain hourly domestic day rates at United and American, or the average percentage increase (except as provided in Section 3 B. 4.Note) granted to the non-pilot U.S.-based workgroups of the Company. Any percentage increase due the pilots will be effective as of the date of the increase that triggered the review.

Using my math and Americans new 757 rate at 242 an hour we need a rate at UAL to exceed 212 to start triggering a increase. With both AMR and UAL getting a 3% raise next JAN it does look like we would be due around a 3% raise next APR if the company gives a non contract raise which is likely. If we could use the UAL 757-300 rate we could be due a raise on 1 APR. I am probably missing some important detail but I will ask my reps to insure it's looked at.
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Old 02-06-2015, 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by buzzpat View Post
Was that before or after he saw dead people floating by his hotel during Katrina?

He's toast.
Unless some other stories come out that can be proven he lied about I am 100% certain that nothing will happen to him. He is the face of NBC. No way he is getting fired.
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Old 02-06-2015, 05:17 PM
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Unless some other stories come out that can be proven he lied about I am 100% certain that nothing will happen to him. He is the face of NBC. No way he is getting fired.
Dan Rather did.
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Old 02-06-2015, 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun View Post
Anyone know the current layover hotel in FLL. Trying to find a option under 500.00 for the Miami boat show.
Don't worry about price. Just make a couple of posts from the hotel and bill DALPA.

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Old 02-06-2015, 06:09 PM
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Great study here on the communication style of these DALPA trainees:

Originally Posted by sailingfun View Post
Again keep in mind that the entire discussion stems from one persons posts on two forums. I can't find a single person doing Union work who wants to get rid of it other then mysterious shadow people no one is willing to name and the companies only statements on profit sharing have been to endorse it.
And here's the question posed by Schwanker:

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Just out of curiosity, did you find a single person doing Union work proposing to give some up in C2012? Maybe they were and it was my fault for not paying attention.
When the answer to that question harms sailingfun's premise, he answers another question and ignores the topic entirely:

Originally Posted by sailingfun View Post
A fixed portion of the profit sharing was traded for a 2% raise. That portion was worth somewhere between 0 and 1.9% depending on profit. It could never be more. The 2% is worth about 2.1% now and will continue to compound in the future.
Notice that sailingfun completely ignores Schwanker's question of whether sailingfun knew of anyone doing union work in 2012 that was proposing giving up profit sharing back then.

Sailingfun, you'll always maintain damaged credibility when you refuse to address difficult questions. Even more so when you refuse to ever admit you're wrong.

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