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forgot to bid 04-19-2015 06:53 PM


Originally Posted by scambo1 (Post 1865013)
We are like star voyagers...:D. What does Chewbacca make.

Hell, IDK, let's ask him...


http://weknowmemes.com/wp-content/up...acca-quote.jpg

Hell, IDK, let's see what kind of women does he get? Are they excited to $ee him?

http://www.toplessrobot.com/2005_10_chewbacca.jpg

He evidently makes nothing. Sucks being a wing man.

cardiomd 04-19-2015 07:03 PM


Originally Posted by Sink r8 (Post 1864981)
Why would we compare ourselves to an attorney, or a doctor anyway? If we were comparing ourselves to either of those, which we shouldn't, we should be compensated proportionally to the certainty of outcome. We should get paid the same as a doctor that almost never loses a patient, or an attorney that wins the vast majority of their cases.

Imagine a doctor @ 99.999999% success rate, or an attorney that could win above 90% of cases. Either one would be paid 7 figures, not 6.

Um, no. I think you posted some equally inflammatory nonsense awhile back. Not sure why you repeat this stuff or what kind of fantasy world you think docs live in.

I can imagine at the Aetna headquarters. "Oh, Dr. Cardiomd has a 99.99999% success rate, while other doctors have a 90% success rate. Let's pay reimbursement rates that are 4 times the standard average.. just because... he's incredible." Yeah, that happens a lot.

Typical "quality" bonuses for low complications, readmissions etc. are typically 1 to 5% of salary.

Here is a nice article to reframe your thinking:

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/05/18/su...-big-cost.html

Elliot 04-19-2015 07:07 PM

He can have her.

http://i.imgur.com/n9oVIzH.jpg

I'll take Ygritte.

http://img0.joyreactor.com/pics/comm...ra-650774.jpeg

http://th03.deviantart.net/fs70/PRE/...ra-d6jd03x.jpg

forgot to bid 04-19-2015 07:20 PM

Let me guess... game of thrones?

I only watch Disney Jr. :D



But go Scotland? Is she Scottish or Irish? :D Wait. Go Scots-Irish! Keep it in the family... wait... no... didn't mean it that way.


Speaking of that. Princess Leia was airport hot, if she brought you beer to your craft...

http://beerstreetjournal.com/wp-cont...s-Beer-Gif.gif

Jughead 04-20-2015 03:21 AM

So to sum up the last 5 pages: we want commutable, good trips, with a cap/bow wave, with C2K payrates (if only on parity with a doctor's salary), with weekends off, and maybe some sort of bonus to buy a boat or an airplane to keep us above the middle-class scum.

Justdoinmyjob 04-20-2015 03:27 AM


Originally Posted by Jughead (Post 1865101)
So to sum up the last 5 pages: we want commutable, good trips, with a cap/bow wave, with C2K payrates (if only on parity with a doctor's salary), with weekends off, and maybe some sort of bonus to buy a boat or an airplane to keep us above the middle-class scum.

http://weknowmemes.com/generator/upl...5890432471.jpg

Sink r8 04-20-2015 03:32 AM


Originally Posted by cardiomd (Post 1865025)
Um, no. I think you posted some equally inflammatory nonsense awhile back. Not sure why you repeat this stuff or what kind of fantasy world you think docs live in.

I can imagine at the Aetna headquarters. "Oh, Dr. Cardiomd has a 99.99999% success rate, while other doctors have a 90% success rate. Let's pay reimbursement rates that are 4 times the standard average.. just because... he's incredible." Yeah, that happens a lot.

Typical "quality" bonuses for low complications, readmissions etc. are typically 1 to 5% of salary.

Here is a nice article to reframe your thinking:

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/05/18/su...-big-cost.html

I don't know how you perceived any slight being made in my post. I am all for professionals being paid what they deserve, and I see little basis for comparing our respective professions anyway. You're helping make the point.

I'm not familiar with insurance reimbursement rates, and frankly I don't really want to debate them on an airline pilot forum. I'll stipulate to the fact that insurances companies are a gigantic pain, and suppress wages. But I live in a very affluent area, and many providers can afford to be selective about what insurance they accept. Let's just say that if there was an oncologist, or a cardiologist, or even a GP that only lost 1 patient in 100,000,000 he wouldn't need to have any sort of a relationship with Aetna, or UHC, or BCBS. He'd set his wages. In certain specialties, people would probably pay directly, and pay a lot, for an 80%, or 90%, or 99% chance of being cured, depending on the problem and prognosis. Fair enough?

But if that example hits too close to home, set it aside completely. I'm not arguing we should compare uourselves to you, but that we shouldn't. As an alternative way of viewing my previous post, imagine an attorney that consistently won 90% of cases. Imagine what that would pay. Or not. If that example isn't suitable, ignore it as well. Comparisons across professions don't work all that well, do they?

Sink r8 04-20-2015 03:48 AM


Originally Posted by Jughead (Post 1865101)
So to sum up the last 5 pages: we want commutable, good trips, with a cap/bow wave, with C2K payrates (if only on parity with a doctor's salary), with weekends off, and maybe some sort of bonus to buy a boat or an airplane to keep us above the middle-class scum.

And for god's sake, above cardiologists ;)

sailingfun 04-20-2015 03:54 AM


Originally Posted by RockyBoy (Post 1864994)
No clue what the average is.

I have one neighbor who is a Dentist. Works Mon-Thur 8-4. Makes about 250K.

I have another neighbor who is a orthopedic surgeon. Works about 5 days a week and some long hours. Makes 450K.

I'm comparing myself to people I actually know in those professions and what they make.....not what Google will tell you.

We have Delta pilots who will break 500k this year. That does not make it the norm. You have to compare averages. We're about the same as Doctors and well above lawyers and Dentists.

Purple Drank 04-20-2015 04:00 AM

Do those Google stats include doctors and lawyers who work for free?

Those selfish bastards. Bringing down the median salaries.


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