Originally Posted by buzzpat (Post 1873235)

Hey fellas,

Sorry to interrupt the contract discussion. Good stuff. But, for my 73 bruddas out there I have a question: where did that LOE guidance/gouge we used to have posted on the 73 Training section on DeltaNet? Does it still exist? I looked everywhere.

Thanks in advance,
Buzz

Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 1873238)

It should be in your content locker on your surface...I've got mine powered down now so I can't take you through the menus, but you could just scroll through the alphabetical and look for OE guide or something similar.

Otherwise, click on 737 Flight Standards on your fleet page, then OE/TOE/Line Check, and you'll find it on the page that opens up then.

When are you going to bid 717 captain? ;)

Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 1873227)

That all seems pretty far fetched. In order to do that, they would have to completely rewrite the way line check airmen are handled as well (both in the contract as well as the entire organizational structure of flight standards and training).

Originally Posted by buzzpat (Post 1873242)

Thanks 80! Found it.

Not going to bid 717 CA until I can hold it out here and that won't be for a long time!:D

Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1873245)

But Buzz, think about what it will be like to fly a 3 or 4... or 5... day trip and remain in the Specific Time zone the whole time?!

Originally Posted by Scoop (Post 1873198)

Close, but it was a timing issue more then cost.. About three years ago Flight Ops wanted to hire but the front office was determined to show a first quarter profit and anything that put that first quarter profit at risk (the expense of hiring) was delayed.

Our management is pretty smart. They weighed the Pros and Cons and decided to do everything within their power to produce a first quarter profit. Well they did, and Wall St and the S&P boys were impressed - just as management knew they would be.

Fast forward three years - DAL is still behind the power curve on manning. And now they are desperate for Pilot productivity. That is the name of the game boys - "Productivity." They want us to each fly a lot more block hours per month.

The funny thing is, they say this while at the same time patting themselves on the back for matching the "exactly" right capacity in every market via the diverse fleet that they were smart enough to deploy.

So on one hand we as Pilots are inefficient because we require all the things that go along with a diverse fleet (more training, more reserves etc) yet they are geniuses maximizing revenue.

Guess what boys - Record profits should equal Record Pilot compensation! :D

OBTW - I keep hearing this word "concession" does anyone know what it means? I know what compromise means but I am totally at loss for concession. ;)

Scoop

Originally Posted by Sink r8 (Post 1872437)

Two separate concepts being discussed, right?

1) The recovery obligations of a FO flying with a LCA.
2) The notion of removing LCA-awarded trips from the available pairings for FO's to bid.

2 is heinous, and affects every FO in category, +/- a couple. If you allow the removal of trips, then everyone below that point is getting a worse trip than they might have otherwise held. Essentially, every LCA in their category lowers the seniority of the FO's in their category by 1. I can't imagine this would seriously be considered.

Originally Posted by Boatbuilder (Post 1873081)

Not to contribute to thread drift, but does anybody know if all this new uniform info on the flights ops sight involves the pilot group? The company certainly seems to be spending some serious $$ and resources on it.

Originally Posted by Boatbuilder (Post 1873081)

Not to contribute to thread drift, but does anybody know if all this new uniform info on the flights ops sight involves the pilot group? The company certainly seems to be spending some serious $$ and resources on it.

Originally Posted by Flamer (Post 1873217)

How would you even bid? I usually put trip numbers in for my top choices. So they would run the A lines first and then pull the B lines and I would not have any idea what trips were going to be pulled at the time I bid? I don't think so buddy.