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GogglesPisano 06-19-2015 09:16 AM


Originally Posted by Waves (Post 1909854)
I called ALPA on this and they said the company can use the automated call feature one time even when your on rest and it supposedly doesn't violate your rest period.

True. But you don't have to acknowledge it.

UnderhillsAcct 06-19-2015 09:56 AM


Originally Posted by TCMC17RES (Post 1909593)
I was a no vote.over the loss of profit sharing. That was and has been my only issue. I agree, why not the pay raise with profit sharing. The bigger issue with voting no now is that the no voters are all over the map.

JV scope:I don't agree that pilots need to get involved in airline business decisions. The company has proven that they will make their decisions regardless of our negotiated JV anyway, and pay us the 1.5% of salary penalty in the grievance. $30 million spread over 12,500 pilots is a waste of negotiating capital.

Sick: there are no changes that prevent me from calling in "mentally sick" less than 14 days. Over 14 days I'll be fully medically sick, and clearly verifiable. Providing the charts for the illness to the Delta doctor does not scare me. I had to do this already once before for disability. If Delta is going to pay me to get well, they can have whatever verification they need. The added disability account offsets any inconvenience for me, I simply go to work when I am healthy, and I don't when I am not.

FO OE trip buy: this is a benefit for the few, not the rest of us. I'd rather have our company doing better overall than paying guys to not go to work. My top priority is to hand other airlines their assess, and we can't do that without going to work.

My issue is with the loss of profit share. If we had a group largely focused on that single item, I world join the galvanizing force. Unfortunately we don't. We have a group that is simply angry with everything. I can't join that. If the company wants to decrease profit sharing so they can reduce it company wide, then add 6% to my defined benefit plan, but don't take it from my pay raise! Unfortunately, I'm on an island.

So you are a one issue "no vote" and if everyone doesn't feel the same then be damned "I'll vote yes". Or am I reading your post wrong.

I have a couple issues with this TA that have me at "no". There are several issues that might never affect me, like the sick leave issue, but I understand others problems with it and would support them. Because I believe in these "good times" for the company, we shouldn't give anything back; but if we were to giveback anything, we better be rewarded far greater than I see in this TA.

Your reasoning on the OE trip drop issue, is the same attitude that had us lose every other good QOL issues we had in the past. And it doesn't involve just a few pilots; over 1000 pilots had trip drops last year. And as others have posted the trip holdbacks will limit bidding for 75% of the FOs and change manning needed for the worse. That is the biggest issue, less manning needed, means less jobs, and less movement for all FOs.

With your reasoning we need to go after the "good deals" on the heavy international side, where Just "a few" reserves make big money sitting at home on reserve never flying. Surely we can find something for them to do, that would help out the company, also. (I'm kidding of course, but you get the idea)

Express pilot 06-19-2015 02:45 PM

I have a ton of PB days. For the 1st PCS run tomorrow, can I put in a PCS request for PB days and PD days? The contract says it looks at PD first. I have used PD request before and then just called CS to get them changed to TOFF days.

Do ya'll think I hurting my chances on having both request in (PB and PD)?

4fans 06-19-2015 03:19 PM

I need some dal commuting advice. If you have a reserved jump seat, do you guys bother to have a backup? I can't figure out if I have to have two flights to abide by the policy, which one should I have the junpseat on?Also, how early before sign in time do you plan your commuting flight to arrive at your base?

TED74 06-19-2015 03:32 PM


Originally Posted by 4fans (Post 1910133)
I need some dal commuting advice. If you have a reserved jump seat, do you guys bother to have a backup? I can't figure out if I have to have two flights to abide by the policy, which one should I have the junpseat on?Also, how early before sign in time do you plan your commuting flight to arrive at your base?

Have you read the policy? Yes, you need a backup. I'd shoot to jumpseat on the first one. Then, when you break holding short of the runway, there should be time to contact the company and have them put you on a backup (at their direction) with a PS ticket or jumpseat. If you're on probation (guessing from the question), you do NOT want to screw up the UTC policy (IMHO). I personally don't like to schedule a jump seat that I don't plan on using (e.g., the backup) since it interferes with planning of others also trying to commute.

4fans 06-19-2015 03:45 PM


Originally Posted by TED74 (Post 1910148)
Have you read the policy? Yes, you need a backup. I'd shoot to jumpseat on the first one. Then, when you break holding short of the runway, there should be time to contact the company and have them put you on a backup (at their direction) with a PS ticket or jumpseat. If you're on probation (guessing from the question), you do NOT want to screw up the UTC policy (IMHO). I personally don't like to schedule a jump seat that I don't plan on using (e.g., the backup) since it interferes with planning of others also trying to commute.

This is helpful, thank you. You put it into perspective well. How early before sign in do you plan to arrive?

Denny Crane 06-19-2015 04:15 PM


Originally Posted by Express pilot (Post 1910106)
I have a ton of PB days. For the 1st PCS run tomorrow, can I put in a PCS request for PB days and PD days? The contract says it looks at PD first. I have used PD request before and then just called CS to get them changed to TOFF days.

Do ya'll think I hurting my chances on having both request in (PB and PD)?

Depending upon how much time you have, I would try the PB days first. To use both PB days and a personal drop, the reserves available have to be more than the reserves required for the entire date range. If you get the PD, you'll more than likely get the PB day award. If I had the time, I'd let the PB days ride for a few runs and see if it goes thru. JMO

I don't like to leave anything up to the discretion of CS.

Denny

forgot to bid 06-19-2015 04:43 PM

So ATL and NYC 7ERB could use some help. Still 5 trips in open time for today in ATL, 20 in NYC for tomorrow.

Will all of you lazy LCA bidding FOs get to work? :D ;)

capncrunch 06-19-2015 05:22 PM


Originally Posted by Seaslap8 (Post 1909796)
Pro or Con, your opinion on this mediocre TA is to be respected... but please don't stop donating to the PAC.

This point of donating to the PAC is so ALPA can protect us from foreign carriers. Unfortunately in our TA they relax JV scope that hurts us and helps foreign carriers. We need a PAC that protects us from ALPA.

Since ALPA won't help us on out on the TA why would they with the PAC?

hockeypilot44 06-19-2015 06:16 PM


Originally Posted by capncrunch (Post 1910255)
This point of donating to the PAC is so ALPA can protect us from foreign carriers. Unfortunately in our TA they relax JV scope that hurts us and helps foreign carriers. We need a PAC that protects us from ALPA.

Since ALPA won't help us on out on the TA why would they with the PAC?

I donated to DPA after all 4 of my reps voted for this TA. Now all 4 of my reps are in the crew room promoting it and telling us how great it is. The reps are literally in the crew room telling the pilots that they represent that we are sick leave abusers and that the union is trying to change that. With friends like that, who needs enemies?


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