There have been a few times where I'm looking at the speed tape then the end of the runway, speed tape/runway, speed tape/runway wondering if its gonna work. I wonder of there is an equation for so much speed to go before V1 versus so much runway remaining. :rolleyes:

Balls of aluminum is more like it. No one wants a tail strike so that's what's on everyone's mind. Not the length remaining

Oh, but Vr is calculated for tailstrike protection. I was under the impression there was a large spread between v1 and vr causing late rotation. Oh well, nvm.

Where can I find how much spillover time there is in a carryout rotation? The trip is not in the original bid package, and I can't find the breakout in icrew.

Easiest place is if the trip is in Open Time--it'll break it out for you on the summary page.

Only other way I've found is to do the math--take the time from the day(s) in the current month, subtract from the trip's total. Remember, all credit paid on the last day (i.e., in the carryout month), except your DPM (2:00), if applicable, pays on the specific day(s) in question.

Something like this?

http://youtu.be/aWtdtuspnoM

PS: Also, once the next month's bid package comes out, the carryout trips are listed there for anything changed or added, at the very end of the bid packet (it will say "REPLACES # XXXX" for a changed rotation, or "REPLACES # NEW" for an added one). Still doesn't give you the breakout like the list at the top of the bid pack, though....

Man, I can't tell you how many times I've done that. Trust the numbers, trust the numbers, .....

Our unit of modified C-135s was transferred to Wright-Patterson, and those guys were alarmed at our takeoff rolls. They ran measurements with a laser device and found: "The numbers were wrong, the numbers were wrong..." :eek:

Not strictly a 900 issue. The way we default to high AT takeoff power settings, de-rates, we routinely rotate near the end on 10,000+ runways.

I have seen guys argue this from both sides. Some guys don't like it and insist that it increases the risks while others argue that the likelihood of an engine failure are reduced with lower power takeoffs.

My personal opinion is that the derates are a good thing - as long as we don't take it (and the takeoff roll :) ) too far.

Scoop