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Old 05-06-2016 | 04:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Herkflyr
For the longest time there was no such animal as Economy Comfort, and we dh countless times without it.

This sucks...but is has nothing to do with pilots and contract negotiations. It is about the company trying to generate more revenue, plain and simple...it still sucks though.
I agree about their intentions, but as previously stated this changes the status quo of my work environment and cannot be accepted. I hope it doesn't take Tim getting another 45 day unpaid vacation to get ALPA moving this time.

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Old 05-06-2016 | 05:21 AM
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More revenue more profit sharing. Bigger fish to fry than EC seats on DH

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Old 05-06-2016 | 05:26 AM
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Whats the junior CA DOH on the 320?
Old 05-06-2016 | 05:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Herkflyr
the "no selecting EC within 24 hrs" rule means most dh crewmembers can plan on rarely if ever seeing EC on deadheads in the future.

That sucks. However I don't see it as an anti pilot move, just a revenue initiative.
We are in Section 6. Status quo is in effect.
If management makes a change that "sucks" for working pilots, it is illegal.
Their intent is irrelevant.
Old 05-06-2016 | 05:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Trip7
More revenue more profit sharing. Bigger fish to fry than EC seats on DH

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Why not get rid of business class international? Why not remove crew meals? How about reducing per diem by a nickel per hour? Now you have to wear your hat to the pool while on layover...

Every contract violation needs to be rigorously fought, there are no little fish when the company violates the contract.
Old 05-06-2016 | 05:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Bs8080
Whats the junior CA DOH on the 320?
There is a big difference between Delta South DOH, and PNW DOH for those positions. You're better off just asking for the seniority number.....
Old 05-06-2016 | 05:38 AM
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Originally Posted by MikeF16
Why not get rid of business class international? Why not remove crew meals? How about reducing per diem by a nickel per hour? Now you have to wear your hat to the pool while on layover...

Every contract violation needs to be rigorously fought, there are no little fish when the company violates the contract.
Those are contractual items. Our PWA AFAIK doesn't stipulate that pilots must have an EC seat on a Domestic DH.
Old 05-06-2016 | 05:43 AM
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Originally Posted by MikeF16
Why not get rid of business class international? Why not remove crew meals? How about reducing per diem by a nickel per hour? Now you have to wear your hat to the pool while on layover...

Every contract violation needs to be rigorously fought, there are no little fish when the company violates the contract.
All those items are in the contract. Economy comfort 24 hour upgrades are not. It was granted as a freebie.
Old 05-06-2016 | 05:45 AM
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Originally Posted by MikeF16
Why not get rid of business class international? Why not remove crew meals? How about reducing per diem by a nickel per hour? Now you have to wear your hat to the pool while on layover...

Every contract violation needs to be rigorously fought, there are no little fish when the company violates the contract.
Originally Posted by Trip7
Those are contractual items. Our PWA AFAIK doesn't stipulate that pilots must have an EC seat on a Domestic DH.
We need to be precise in our terminology.
There is no contract violation here but there is a change in the status quo in violation of the Railway Labor Act.
Changes to "working conditions" do not have to be contract violations.
There's a ton of case law on that exact point.

The company could do this if we weren't in section 6. But we are.

Throughout this mandatory period of bargaining required under section 6 of
the RLA and the mediation process set forth in section 155 including the 30 day
cooling-off period after the failure of the mediatory efforts, the parties may
not alter the status quo, i.e., neither party may implement a change in the
actual objective working conditions broadly conceived, whether embodied in
agreements or not.

US Supreme Court
Detroit & Toledo Shore Line Railroad v. United Transportation Union, 396 U.S. 142
(1969).
Old 05-06-2016 | 05:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Check Essential
We need to be precise in our terminology.
There is no contract violation here but there is a change in the status quo in violation of the Railway Labor Act.
Changes to "working conditions" do not have to be contract violations.
There's a ton of case law on that exact point.

The company could do this if we weren't in section 6. But we are.
Thanks for the clarification. I won't edit or elaborate, you've summed it up nicely.
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