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JamesBond 10-13-2018 09:19 AM


Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 2689838)
Same fake image was used in the Houston storm.

And Sandy.

Actually it is the new Delta Submersible Fleet.

https://getyarn.io/yarn-clip/2ad3007...e-bef6afff7f8c

80ktsClamp 10-13-2018 08:50 PM


Originally Posted by GuardPolice (Post 2689869)
I don’t know what to think about this. Did you initially really believe that was a valid picture? If so, do you think Delta would actually be that stupid to leave billions of dollars worth of airplanes in the path of any hurricane?


To be fair, the Air Force was... "more than a dozen" F-22s left at Tyndall...

badflaps 10-13-2018 10:33 PM


Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 2690981)
To be fair, the Air Force was... "more than a dozen" F-22s left at Tyndall...

I'd hate to guess that loss, you can see some of them in a topless hangar, plus what looked like MU-2's? I'll bet brack water doesn't do much for the gee-whiz electronics.:eek:

sailingfun 10-13-2018 11:13 PM


Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 2690981)
To be fair, the Air Force was... "more than a dozen" F-22s left at Tyndall...

All were in a non flyable status.

TED74 10-14-2018 01:58 AM


Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 2690996)
All were in a non flyable status.

If it were MY collection of unflyable Raptors in the path of 13' storm surge, I'd load at least a few on flat beds and drive them north. An expensive hedge, for sure... but worthwhile with an actual national asset valued over a billion dollars. We need every F-22 we've got (had?); this is truly devastating to our national defense.

sailingfun 10-14-2018 02:24 AM


Originally Posted by TED74 (Post 2691005)
If it were MY collection of unflyable Raptors in the path of 13' storm surge, I'd load at least a few on flat beds and drive them north. An expensive hedge, for sure... but worthwhile with an actual national asset valued over a billion dollars. We need every F-22 we've got (had?); this is truly devastating to our national defense.

You would have to take the wings off to flatbed them. I suspect that’s not easy. We could not even flaked a A4 with a 24 foot wingspan. The Raptor has a 44 foot span.

TED74 10-14-2018 03:27 AM


Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 2691007)
You would have to take the wings off to flatbed them. I suspect that’s not easy. We could not even flaked a A4 with a 24 foot wingspan. The Raptor has a 44 foot span.

I'm sure none of it would be easy. But at $135M a pop, when we're already hundreds short of the quantity (I think) we need, I wish they had found a way.

I wasn't there and I don't know the details, but I've been in the military long enough not to trust that all the right decisions were made in advance of this historic storm.

Bucking Bar 10-14-2018 05:33 AM


Originally Posted by GuardPolice (Post 2689869)
...do you think Delta would actually be that stupid to leave billions of dollars worth of airplanes in the path of any hurricane?

If I were CFO, I'd make sure the insurance policies were paid, then dispatch the entire MD88 fleet and a few A320's to the lowest windy'st airport with instructions to leave them unchocked with the tires really pumped up and parking brakes released. Then if the airplanes appeared repairable, spread the word that the liquor kits are still onboard. Scavengers will finish them off searching for booze.

... probably the reason I'll never be CFO, but we would have a most excellent quarter at $11.5 million per.

Bucking Bar 10-14-2018 05:41 AM


Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 2690996)
All were in a non flyable status.

Find a Vietnam era F4 pilot and hire him as a sub-contractor. "3,500 feet of steel matting and one engine will do, we can air start the other one on the climb out"

Locate Charlie Tutt & Bill Panke, insert a 12 pack of reasonable quality beer, find a lakeside, wait one hour and learn what is possible with a 50,000lb war machine in a serious state of disrepair :-)

notEnuf 10-14-2018 05:50 AM

I can't believe the value we leave lying around the panhandle (and have for years) without a hardened safe hangar that can accommodate fighter size aircraft. Just look at the hurricane plots over the last 100 years.


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