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AV8ER13 12-20-2009 02:36 PM

Ok, sorry, probably asked or said before, but I am on the -9 and in Jan go to DBMS stuff. I am on resrv, and I thought I heard or read there is a way to bid or request that you be assigned short call resrv days ealry in the month...I guess helping your raw score...Which I am still trying to figure out what all that means. Thanks for any help

satchip 12-20-2009 02:40 PM

look up reserve in the contract

Wasatch Phantom 12-20-2009 02:45 PM


Originally Posted by FlyingViking (Post 730356)
I received a call yesterday about an inverse assignment. Due to personal reasons and the storm, I did not reply. This is however, the first time I haven't been all over them. Later I got this question for self; if on reserve and you accept an inverse assigment, will you really get premium pay? Will this only benefit you if you have 70+ hours that month?

How does this "premium pay" benefit a reserve guy?

There's a reserve "green slip strategy" that works really well when (and only when) they are very short pilots in your category. It goes something like this:

You bid a four X day pattern at the beginning of the month and put in a blanket green slip for the month. They call you you out for say a three day green slip on day one. When you get back from that trip you get your X days back starting 9 hours after block in, so you still have four days off and the premium pay (straight rates) is added to the reserve guarantee. Let's say that three day was worth 16 hours to a reserve. You are now up to 86 hours pay for the month.

But the company is still short of reserves and they call you out on another green slip. Same rules apply. And this snowballs through the month. Pretty soon your X day block is moved into your second X day block so you have maybe seven X days in a row, but they're still short...If everything works perfectly, all your trips will be paid over and above the reserve guarantee. When I did that, I had some huge months pay-wise.

satchip 12-20-2009 02:48 PM

Don't work so good when there are 50 reserves available.

FlyingViking 12-20-2009 03:07 PM


Originally Posted by Wasatch Phantom (Post 730434)
There's a reserve "green slip strategy" that works really well when (and only when) they are very short pilots in your category. It goes something like this:

You bid a four X day pattern at the beginning of the month and put in a blanket green slip for the month. They call you you out for say a three day green slip on day one. When you get back from that trip you get your X days back starting 9 hours after block in, so you still have four days off and the premium pay (straight rates) is added to the reserve guarantee. Let's say that three day was worth 16 hours to a reserve. You are now up to 86 hours pay for the month.

But the company is still short of reserves and they call you out on another green slip. Same rules apply. And this snowballs through the month. Pretty soon your X day block is moved into your second X day block so you have maybe seven X days in a row, but they're still short...If everything works perfectly, all your trips will be paid over and above the reserve guarantee. When I did that, I had some huge months pay-wise.

Did the rolling thunder two summers ago, neat stuff...

FlyingViking 12-20-2009 03:09 PM


Originally Posted by satchip (Post 730435)
Don't work so good when there are 50 reserves available.


They ran out of reserves yesterday... Probably caused by the weather though. U working over x-mas? I am and is just hoping for a trip somewhere...

satchip 12-20-2009 03:17 PM

I go back on reserve on the 24th. Wife and kids are enroute to LGA as we speak for a week in the Big Apple before I go back to indentured servitude. :-)

FlyingViking 12-20-2009 03:23 PM


Originally Posted by satchip (Post 730443)
I go back on reserve on the 24th. Wife and kids are enroute to LGA as we speak for a week in the Big Apple before I go back to indentured servitude. :-)

That's my "going back to service" date as well. See you there..

AV8ER13 12-20-2009 03:35 PM


Originally Posted by satchip (Post 730431)
look up reserve in the contract

Obviously a long sleeve pilot

RockyBoy 12-20-2009 04:03 PM


Originally Posted by AV8ER13 (Post 730430)
Ok, sorry, probably asked or said before, but I am on the -9 and in Jan go to DBMS stuff. I am on resrv, and I thought I heard or read there is a way to bid or request that you be assigned short call resrv days ealry in the month...I guess helping your raw score...Which I am still trying to figure out what all that means. Thanks for any help

In DBMS under the slip request function there is an option to request to be first in line for short call. I think it's under the yellow slip area. There is no guarantee that you will get SC, but if you want to attempt to get all your SC assignments towards the first of the month, you can attempt it using this request. As far as helping your RAW score, getting a SC day and not getting used doesn't raise your raw score by much. It also won't raise it at all until you get a trip with credit in it so you could sit six days of SC without getting used and still have a RAW of 0. Once they use you for a trip with credit, those SC days will go into the RAW formula and it will be slightly higher due to those SC days.


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