That's the way it is at Delta too except its not every month.
All these other discussions are fun but its mostly just crystal ball gazing.

I put in my bids and if I get the award that's great.

The NWA guys will get a CD for the training to become fully acronym compliant. :D

Not to put too fine a point on it, but don't you mean "we"? :D

ACL,

I'll be curious as to what DAL does with regard to their connection carriers. IIRC, while in bankruptcy ASA was sold to SkyWest and part of the deal was a non cancellable 20 year contract.

I think at the same time DAL got some financing from GE Capital in exchange for DAL long term leasing some 70 seat RJs.

Personally, I hope they (DAL MGT) take very hard look at the whole DCI operation and bring a considerable amount of that flying back to mainline, especially now that we have a bunch of DC-9s.

Wow NewK, took the words right out of my mouth. How many cards does Delta have? Anyway, I hope we get a class/CD plus an idiots book for guys like me.

Here is my ONE card:
Permanent MSPFO757B

Submitted Date and Time: 01NOV2008 2023 Effective 05NOV08
1 MSPCA757B 2 DTWCA757B 3 MSPCA757R 4 DTWCA757R 5 DTWFO744B
6 MSPFO757B 7 DTWFO757B 8 MSPFO320B 9 DTWFO320B 10 MEMFO320B
11 MSPFODC9B 12 DTWFODC9B 13 MEMFODC9B 14 DTWFO744R 15 MSPFO757R
16 DTWFO757R 17 18 19 20
21 22 23 24 25
26 27 28 29 30
31 32 33 34 35
36 37 38 39 40
41 42 43 44 45
46 47 48 49 50
Exit/F3 Print/F11

My current position is at request #6. Everything above is a wish list, everything below is what I want to do if displaced. Note as a commuter, I would rather retrain into an Airbus 320 as a block holder than commute to reserve in my 757 and on down the line.

Now, I know there is no seperate block/reserve which probably makes or new cards more complex.

Oh, and having them roll once a month is nice. Any AE or a guy who retires is like pulling a hanger out of a box of hangers. It will alway "grab" several others. What ACL described as positions which need backfill and those who don't is like our's too. But, unless it's a fat position we always back fill.

Anyway, enough of the rambeling. But, KISS seems to be something good for all and something I hope the TWG looks at.

Ferd

Low number means you don't want the award unless you are senior to that number. ie= if you put 10 then you want to be in the top 10.

Low % is the same but uses a percentage. ie= if you put 25 then you don't want the award unless you are in the top 25%.

Reg only means you don't want the award unless you will be a regular line holder (using crew resources' best guess)

I think Tr Bv has to do with training bypass. Its for guys near mandatory retirement. They can get the award and get paid but never go to school. Don't worry about it until you're age 64. :)

You are correct, and to add to it DAL made many of the contract carriers fall under similar agreements as they became amendable. But with everything the devil is in the details. Real all of the 60+ pages of the SKW or ASA contracts that are not blacked out. (They can be found with some searching on the SEC website.) A lot of the parameters in these contracts are amendable every five years. Well guess what? Year five is up for a bunch of them. Based on metrics, performance, and a few other things, they can be drawn down, and the compensation matrix can be tinkered with. This is where the changes will be taking place.
There are a few other areas that are deal breakers too. Look for DAL to use them as necessary to get the concessions that they want.

There is a place in the DAL portfolio for DCI and our regional affiliates. The cost structure and scope of operations needs to be reworked. It is not a pilot issue, but a financial one. DCI is a money looser for the parent company. If that does not change, it will not be good for any party involved.

I believe its been said that the DC-9's are not going anywhere for the time being. Richard Anderson has said that Delta has to much 50-seat lift and too many connection carriers. He said Delta is looking to get rid of 1-2 of them and have most DCI lift flown by the wholly-owneds. Not sure if this will translate into more mainline narrowbody flying or simply a reduction of the aformentioned 50-seat jets. Stay tuned!

Having just been furloughed from Comair, their prognosis is what I am mainly interested in...

There are many at Comair that think DL began starving them of airplanes because of the lack of Comair's MEC to negotiate with mgt. But you mention that it is not about the pilots. Others say that DL has contracts for minimum flying with the others, and that Comair is being used to take up the slack in reduction of flying.

If it is purely cost... our pilots are fairly heavy on the senority side, and therefore an expensive work force comparatively, I suppose that does not bode well then for us?

We could turn the excess CRJ200s into cargo planes:

http://www.airliners.net/photo/West-...nal/1231507/M/

http://www.airliners.net/photo/West-...onal/1231507/M

Sorry, don't know how to make the image work but thats a cargo CRJ.