That should just about cover it :)

Funny
I agree

We're just all trying to help! ;-)

And I really appreciate it!!! :)

I guess what has me confused, is why the change then, from a 767 base to a 7ER base? Is it to theoretically get the 767 guys internationally trained, and then originate the 7ER trips out of CVG instead of having them originate out of JFK and/or ATL?

One other thing I don't understand - and this is more a "general AE" question, but using this AE as an example... I keep hearing that sometimes the company will run an AE, but not backfill. How is this possible?

Let's say that a bunch of senior people from other bases and categories bid over to the CVG 7ER. This would theoretically leave random openings all over the system - so wouldn't the company have to backfill potentially every category to maintain proper staffing?

Or, because the current CVG 767 guys would then have to displace other pilots... And those displaced pilots would end up having to displace other pilots... Eventually, the most junior guys would get displaced back into the original holes that were left... Thus, no actual "backfilling" occurring... Just displacements?


Thanks for everyone's help. My pea brain is having a hard time comprehending all of this. :) :)

I will try to explain this very simply. What it means is that when a 777A slot is filled by a 765 slot, they fill it with a 7ERA slot, which in turn takes a 767A slot, which in turn takes a 73NA slot, which in turn takes a M88A slot, which then in theory takes a 777B slot.
Now when they decided not to backfill, what it mean is that, they fill the 777A slot with the guy that bid it. Lets say he came from a fat category like the 73NA. Instead of filling the 73N A slot, they just leave it open, and the category shrinks. You do this 34 times and it will not be earth shattering, but it will shrink a few categories that are fat. It is a lot easier than filling them and then displacing people out the bottom. Plus, it saves a ton of money in training costs.
I am sure some positions will be backfilled, but sooner or later it ends up with one of the holes coming from a fat area that they want to shrink.

Does that make any sense?

There is still one thing I'm completely confused about. I'm getting conflicting information about displacements. I had one very senior pilot tell me that you won't get displaced unless they run a surplus on the A/E. Now you guys on here are saying that I can get displaced if many pilots senior to me bump me down. I'm at the bottom of the 73N in CVG. Even though there were no surplus 73N B positions on the A/E, I could still get displaced? Or would they just run fat on F.O.'s for a while? If you're a junior pilot, how in the heck do you ever plan your life if you're constantly getting displaced? I'd be afraid to move the family anywhere until I was pretty senior.

They have a "surplus" position with the 767 CVG base going away. Now that means that we are all subject to the trickle down effect.

Seriously though what the hell is the eggplant crap that smells like seafood that they serve with the crew meals?

No kidding...we ran Smoke & Fume Elimination the other day before we realized it was the first class meals.

Voluntary Displacement on iCrew/ eCrew?
 

Can someone riddle me this?

The message above the Voluntary Displacement Preferences

"Should a junior pilot in my category be displaced, I volunteer to take ____ the displacement and displace the other categories as _____ indicated below:"

I know this is plain english but it really doesn't make sense if someone junior to me is displaced i will volunteer to be displaced? Am I reading this correctly?