Absolutely agreed.
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And is newtodal really new or someone trying to cause trouble? I don't buy all of these NWA pilots wanting to go to DAL bases ASAP. It was a massive fear on the DAL side and the reason why some categories suddenly went senior that were once junior on the last real AE in early 08. However, looking at the NWA seniority list I find it somewhat unfounded. I do not believe the 9 is staffed by frustrated pilots hoping and praying that after 10 years they might hold the 320.

I see the 320 as far south as March 2008 and 757 as far south as September 2007. Our most junior DAL 767 pilot is Nov 07 (I believe) and 7ER is January 08 and both are about to start seeing MDs.

And why if 80% of NWA is commuting would you run to chase bigger planes? We have 340 pilots on the 88 B in ATL senior to the most junior 7ER pilot, why? QOL. Same as the 9 from what I can tell on the NWA side. Commuters chase seniority/QOL most of the time.

To me movement will be mostly from pilots wanting better commutes, not bigger and better planes and that movement will be minimal if a) its even allowed and b) if there are even spots open.

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And they figured the NWA were big boys as well and wouldn't gloat with the outcome. Apparently there are some who don't fit the model.

I think there's a pretty good chance that "newtodal" is one of the usual suspects on this board with a new lD just trying to stir things up. "I talked to 75 FO's?" Yeah, right... I haven't worked in a while, been out on mil, but when I was a working commuter I almost never had occasion to talk at any length to other FO's other than the couple of guys I'd bump into in the crash pad. All I had time to do was check-in, run to the gate and then run for a commute flight at the end. What is this guy supposedly doing...conducting a survey?

Great point. I talk to LOTS of captains but nary another FO unless I'm killing time waiting for the jet to come in to the gate. Maybe the old NWA guys do if differently but we DAL guys are working.

I'm not mad at you, I just wish I'd never heard of you.

I will say that many of us NYC -ER FO's (and CA's) have a 4+ hour sit in the JFK crew room waiting for sign-in. We have ample time to BS while we wait around. One of the "bennies" of flying out of JFK.

They give you guys new printers yet up there? And an exhaust fan for the bathrooms by the computers?

In the summer that got rough when someone decided to [insert one liner] and all you had was that big fan blowing air into the room, not out.
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Former NYC crewroom sleeper.

Disagree. Most at NWA are chasing $$$. Guys who live in MSP with a 330 base right there, commute to DTW to fly the -400.

As long as you can hold a line, and you're commuting anyway, most are going to go for the dollars, especially now with the real or percieved loss of income down the road.

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The crew room IS the exact same as you left it though we did get wireless. It is a joke with a broke TV, broke printers, old barkaloungers complete with snoozing FA's, and those smelly bathrooms of the computer room so when a guy drops his whole colon we all get to enjoy it and see who did it as he comes out. Great place for a multi-hour sit since you have to get there early to compensate for the tough commute. DAL's "Call In Honest" policy for commuters means you have to had two flights (with open seats) available to get to work before sign-in to not get "in trouble." So you get there early to CYA (cover your a$$) as the mid-afternoon flights often ATC/WX delay cutting it too close.