I now see you have no sense of humor whatsoever.

First, no the Pacific has always been open to DAL, long before the NWA's ACQUISITION. I flew Japan in the MD-11 many years ago. We flew there from several of our bases. Secondly, DAL's request to fly China had little if anything to do with NWA's. Thirdly, you can be a name caller if you like, but the facts still remain. Apparently some of you NWA's people can't handle the factual truth, and somehow that makes me arrogant. I placed us as equals, yet your over inflated value of NWA's somehow makes you and the worthless 5th freedom rights superior. The SLI mediation is becoming much clearer now.

Lets not go down this road of name calling.

The seniority issue was just a joke. I was just poking fun. Some people here, not necessarily you, have no sense of humor. Maybe the tone of posted threads is misleading. I've already been called arrogant and condescending.

1). Actually, it may have been a stock swap, but it cost DAL about $3.5 billion for the increase in stock price for the purchase. If I pay someone in stock or increase the value of their stock, it is still a purchase. All news articles I read about the subject consider it an acquisition, not a merger. It is still a moot point, and not worth arguing about.
2). We are in agreement that the enemy should not be ourselves, rather it should be our competition.
3). This cannot be. RA very boldly stated when he took the DAL helm that he wasn't picked to facilitate a MERGER (I give up) with NWA. He wouldn't lie to us, would he? Humor and facetiousness here.
4). Trouble with this is JAL has been cutting those routes because they are currently unprofitable. As far as I know, DAL/NWA isn't doing them either.

Thanks for the welcome aboard. Glad to have you guys with us. We're all just one big happy family now whether we like it or not. LOL

You mean it wasn't clear to you before? I seem to recall something about a failure of leadership. Ah well, all in the past as they say. By the way, most of what you're stiring up here was pretty well hashed out about 2000 pages ago. I suspect a lot of us are on this board are here because we cant stand the relative nastiness of the ALPA board. For the most part we get along pretty well here. I for one would like to keep it that way. Welcome

Gnewt

P.S. The flight plans have grown longer and longer and longer. I asked a dispatcher friend of mine why they couldn't just put applicable NOTAMS on the flight plan and he said it was because they would have to figure out which were applicable to the current flight. So we get to do it instead. I don't envy you NWA's guys being forced to learn so many new things. How did you guys get your numbers for TO? Was it a radio dispatch? When I flew the shuttle, that's how we did it there. Fortunately DAL did the right thing when developing our combined procedures and used the good stuff from both airlines. You had a lot of procedures which were better than ours, like the quiet cockpit approach procedures.

Thanks for the welcome. Didn't mean to stir the pot here. Yeah, you're right, it was crystal clear before now. I'm sorry I missed it, but I wasn't here 2000 pages ago. I guess now I should leave that issue alone, but I get just a bit aggitated with the suggestions by the NWA's guys that DAL guys act like we are superior to them, when in reality and on arbitration record, the reverse is actually the case. I don't truly understand this aire of superiority which permeates this way. I don't understand the animosity towards us.

We used to get our numbers via ACARS same as now, but we used to load up the F/O as we were #3 for T/O; "...ummm ya got those numbers yet?"

I like getting the numbers now before pushback. Keeps everyones heads outside the cockpit during taxi.

Quiet cockpit approach procedures? I thought those came from DAL-S.

Before the changes we used to call out the marker, 1000' 200 to mins...100 to mins...mins. Not very quiet.

CAT2/3 were even worse with a handoff (F/O flew the airplane to minimums) then handed off the plane to the CA who was looking outside. The F/O called minimums at mimimums and the CA called landing or go-around. If landing the CA 'smacked' the F/Os hand off the throttles and landed, if no call or called go-around the F/O did a go-around.

You can imagine the 3 ring circus act in the sim when that occured....I was hoping the 1000' 500' 100 to minimums call was from your side.

Any way, I see your from SLC, if you decide to fly the A-320 you'll love it...yes even if it's not a Boeing:cool:

Waves,

As a South guy, who cares who bought who? We are one company, and each brought crucial puzzle pieces that the other did not have and would have taken many many years....decades.... for either to build up. And trying to very likely would have failed.

I've been saying this all along. Merger or acquisition,it is a moot point. I don't really care. It is the NWA's guys that seem to be hung up on this issue.

:cool:You know...that's what many DAL-N folks think DAL-S folks act like. I guess it's all preception (not truth) I know of a few F/Os and CA who think that DAL-S have animosity towards them and think that DAL-N pilots should be grateful that the widget came along.

Bottom line. Every (yes every) DAL-S guy that I've had the opportunity to meet and share a few beers with have been nothing but fellow pilots with similar viewpoints on flying and fun! Brought up in different cultures? You bet. Ours has been more confrontational with management and as such we seem to view anything that management does or say with doubt. (T-SQUARE CAN VERIFY THIS:D)

And in the spirt of cooperation may I point out that there are no longer any NWA guys only DAL guys. If it is necessary to point out differences in culture perhaps DAL-N / DAL-S may be more appropriate.

Red Dog (Love Coke, Grits, Waffle House and learning to appreciate NASCAR)