Originally Posted by iaflyer (Post 809793)

The DOT approved the request, it just requires Delta and USAir to sell a percentage of the slots. I think he's saying that Delta is going to use the slots the DOT approved in the swap, and sue for the rest.

Originally Posted by FrankCobretti (Post 809766)

I ride on commuters from DCA to LGA and back all the time. It's seamless.

Originally Posted by newKnow (Post 809797)

Sounds like a good plan. Take what you got from them and fight for what you wanted.

Originally Posted by FrankCobretti (Post 809766)

I ride on commuters from DCA to LGA and back all the time. It's seamless.

Originally Posted by rahc (Post 809820)

It's a little different when you have an hourly shuttle that has less than a 50% load factor for a commute. Typical RJ commutes are not that friendly.

Originally Posted by Sink r8 (Post 809812)

Maybe. But you're actually suggesting we do something we're not approved to do (swap slots without meeting the terms of the approval). It's a little like refusing to go to the back of the bus, I guess. Forcing the issue in this manner is definitely a tactic. I don't think I've seen airlines use this approach (fly without approval first, sue later), at least not with the government. But I suppose it could be done.

Originally Posted by Ferd149 (Post 809795)

Sink......exactly right.

Also, I'll add that your release and our old release are wayyyyy different and you don't know what you don't know. Once I saw yours and how little was on it, I understood why you wondered why we wanted 2. Our old one was like a "cliff notes" of the flight plan and a quick easy reference........also great scratch paper:D

I kept one just for $hits and grins and showed it to the RP we had coming home from CDG. He was blown away with it and also how "clean" and organized a World Flight flight plan was.

No worries, this time next year........we'll all be wondering what the big deal was:cool:

Ferd

Originally Posted by iaflyer (Post 809793)

The DOT approved the request, it just requires Delta and USAir to sell a percentage of the slots. I think he's saying that Delta is going to use the slots the DOT approved in the swap, and sue for the rest.

Hm - I read part of the DOT's response and you are correct. The wavier is contigent on Delta and USAir meeting the requirements. Regulations.gov

I guess Delta is going to announce the service, get everything lined up and see what happens. It's possible that they might ask for an injunction against the selling of the slots, while they sue. This way, they can use the slots. It takes time to get the flights in the system, get people to buy tickets, build the walkway between the old USAir terminal and the Delta terminal.

Originally Posted by Nosmo King (Post 809835)

Excellent summary, I may have to put up a webpage with a replica of the old Worldflight release and Flight Plan to make things clearer. Now I have to see if I saved one from a transpac or a south of NRT trip.

BTW Ferd, one of the things I noticed after requesting a copy of the ICAO strip is that we now file TAS in the Pacific. fNW we used to file mach number. This is not apparent under AWABS/FPS because the actual ICAO filed text is not printed like it was on the Worldflight release.

Originally Posted by rahc (Post 809820)

It's a little different when you have an hourly shuttle that has less than a 50% load factor for a commute. Typical RJ commutes are not that friendly.