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Originally Posted by Jack Bauer
(Post 846807)
Speaking of scheduling, there are some good talking points coming from pilots to the union in at least one western base:
"Here is a sampling of ideas from your fellow pilots: Give pilots credit toward their RAW score for short call (A320 b) Allow pilots to sign in for their rotations via SMS text messaging (767 b) Allow rotations that are requested to be dropped before the first PCS run to be viewed as Q-trips (MD-90 b) Automated notification of cancelled rotations (A320 a) Improved, accurate, and dynamic reserve lists (A320 a) Allow next-day swaps (A320 a) Improve templates for yellow, white, green slips (A320 a) Have the reserve list show more dates than just two (A320 b) Ability to bank green-slip pay (A320 b) Formula to calculate number of daily short calls needed (MD-90 b) Improved ability to designate which short call you would receive if assigned short call (MD-90 b) Advanced bidding of short calls (A320 b) Trip splitting into open time (A320 b) One simple low-cost item for assignment to short call is to allow a pilot to go low for short call after he has accomplished three short calls. After his third short call he would be on long call until all other pilots who are equal in utility (four-day pilots compared with other four-day pilots). If needed for IROPs, that pilot would still be called in to sit short call. If a pilot were commuting in for reserve, he would be able to sit three consecutive short calls and then spend the next period of time on long call until the remaining reserve pilots had also sat three short calls. This would prevent a lot of the flying into base, then going back home for long call, only to be told that he is needed for another short call. What are your ideas to improve short calls? Let us know. Thank you, Scheduling Team" 1. I'd like to see a dynamic full month list of guys on reserve. Are they on trips, when are they done? When are they legal for another trip? The tech is there....we had it at a previous airline. Seeing today and tomorrow's lists only is a poor substitute. 2. All shortcalls assigned no later than noon on the day prior. (no cost) Pay for shortcall would be nice...my formula is take the diff between the ALV and res guarantee and divide by six. Whatever that answer is becomes your additional reserve guarantee paid per short call, so if you get your max six short calls, you are paid the average line value. |
They could also post a reserve pilots block in regard to 30 in seven, as well as if they are flying on a given day even though they are on the reserve list.
Jack; This is good stuff. A few of us have suggested adding 15 pilots to raw as a will fly indication as well. Yellows should not be blanket, etc. There is a ton of stuff that needs to be done in section 23. The idea of a SMS or two way e-mail system to notify of trip changes is a great idea and it should be looked at. It needs some sort of parameters as well. Ya know, to keep honest ppl honest! :D |
The way I've seen it before is that you have an automated system that notifies via the pilot's choice of notification. Could be an automated phone call to any number you want, or it could be and e-mail or SMS text. No notifications are official until you reply. Could be any combination of the above. it's fully customizable. It's good for the Company and the pilots. None of the notifications systems are valid until you reply, of course. One piece that is better currently is that you can log in to delta net and look at what they are trying to give you without acknowledging the assignment. North side had it set up so that you couldn't get past the log-in screen without self notifying.
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I know that, but a lot of guys do not want to be on the hook for something as soon as they read it or if it is sent. We are talking things like mid rotation reroutes, 23K, IA etc. Many times it is no biggies, but many of the pilots I have talked to about this issue, want a notification delivered and then they want the ability to respond. SMS is a great idea, but it does not give notification to the scheduler that you have seen and acknowledged the trip or change. Things like windows based e-mail allow read messages to be sent back on request, but to outfit 12200 pilots with a blackberry is cost prohibitive, so a SMS that directs a pilot to log in may be the quick and easy fix. Issues with things like this, is there is a possibility that the SMS will not get to the pilot and therefore the effort is a waste, so thinking up another way to use today's technology and at a cost effective price that benefits everyone is the key.
Most not all of us have smart phones with e-mail. Demanding that everyone have e-mail capability on a phone costs money. There is some work that needs to be done in this area, but many want it and are aware of it. |
If you'll re-read what I wrote, I'm not advocating any situation where the company can send you a note and suddenly you are commited. They would all depend on some sort of reply before you are committed....no reply, no commitment; move on to the next guy.
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NWA had it setup so you could put in several phone numbers, email address, etc and they would all be automatically notified via the VRS (similar to the VRU, but with outgoing capability - kinda like the robo-call IA messages). This way they guys with email on their phone could actually see the trip if they weren't near a computer. Those without email on their phones just kept on doing it the way we do it now. It allowed the user to pick how he/she wanted to be notified.
The big key to this system was the notifications had much more information such as layover cities, checkin/out times, and total credit. This gave you the information you needed to make a decision "on the fly" when you aren't near a computer. As it stands now, you need to drop everything and hurry to iCrew to check out the GS or IA trip that they're offering to see if it's worth it. Or what reserve period you got, LC vs. SC, etc, etc. All these items existed previously and would be fantastic to get back. Keep the good ideas flowing into the SOT - especially the no-cost items. It would be great to see some of this stuff improved prior to section 6. |
Originally Posted by nwaf16dude
(Post 846858)
If you'll re-read what I wrote, I'm not advocating any situation where the company can send you a note and suddenly you are commited. They would all depend on some sort of reply before you are committed....no reply, no commitment; move on to the next guy.
I read what you posted, I was stating some of the issues that many of come up with. The one way system that NWA used may be the lowest cost best option. Simply put, many just want spelled out wording that states the limits of said system. |
Letter to the Council 20 SOT volunteer
Everyone needs to give their input. Alot of guys have some really great ideas, and we need everyone to participate to clean up some of these scheduling items.
Hi XXXXX, Just wanted to throw in my input for the SOT per the latest council 20 newsletter. A few wants: 1. Seniority bidding for short call/long call assignments 2. Bidding of short call windows without having to request short call. It would be nice to preference short call windows "if needed for short call" but not necessarily be asking for short call - similar to how we can set Yellow Slip preference qualifiers "If needed to fly" 3. Be able to see the reserve availability list more than 1 day out - at least 7 would be great 4. Similar to #3, be able to see on the reserve availability list what time a pilot becomes legal for trip assignment. Oftentimes a pilot shows up that is only legal for a few hours in the evening. The only way currently to find this out is to view every pilots schedule which is time consuming and cumbersome. 5. Giving a little more info when assigned a trip via automated phone call, specifically to include layover cities, total credit, and first report/last release times. I frequently receive calls for IA trips but without a computer nearby I have no way of knowing the specifics of the trip and whether I can accept it or not. Including more specific trip information in the automated calls would help with this. 6. Similarly, it would be nice to have an option on the GS preference qualifier page that allows us to put in "premium pay minimum". I recently had a slip in with a minimum avg credit of 5:00/day, but the total premium pay was still only going to be 1.5 hours because the first day (an X day) was just one leg while the subsequent days were very heavy with credit (but were on call reserve days, thus no premium pay.) This trip was not really worth it, even though I tried to filter it out. |
Another nice thing to have would be a more real-time reserve availability list. There is a pretty lengthy lag between when a trip is assigned and when that pilot disappears from the list.
Most of these suggestions seem to be centered around providing reserves with more information so they can plan their days/weeks a little better. With more/more accurate information it's much easier to sharpshoot when you will be used, put on short call, released, etc. Oh, there's another one. Be able to release more than 2 hours prior to the end of short call if NOTHING is going on. You know the days in February, in the middle of the week, when high pressure dominates the entire country, and no one has called in sick in the previous 5 days, AND +10 guys are sitting around on short call . . . . . . :rolleyes: |
I guess my bottom line is this... if you are looking for off-day flying, you should have a chance to look at what they are asking you to fly, and always have a right to refuse if it's not something you want to do; after all, it is your off day. And any off day flying should produce some kind of premium. Straight pay on an off day is just plain bs.
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