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Originally Posted by KC10 FATboy
(Post 850418)
Then we put into the contract that anytime a new aircraft comes onto property, the rates are amendable.
Originally Posted by tsquare
(Post 850452)
We gave up 3.B.6, and what did we get for that?
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot
(Post 850426)
Funny thing is that it is not a hit for one part of the list or another. It just take the static percentage bumps that we negotiate ( 5,4,4,4) and p lowers them to a 2-4% bump per year that a PWA is non-amendable and adds a COLA on top of it.
It sounds very scary to some that they do not know the exact percentage they will get each year, but one must remember that your buying power, which is really what matters, stays constant. That is what matters. If I had the time I would look at the PWA's from the 80's forward. Everyone benchmarks C2K but you need to realize that it was a home run that really was making up for previous prolonged section six negotiations. Even in the last downturn COLA was Zero. We have not had deflation for a very long time. Government will do anything they can to keep inflation positive. (Makes paying back the debt easier since today's dollars are worth less than last years) I admit it is a change in thinking, but it is one that keeps each position at the same buying power Y-O-Y with a rational few percentage points like we are seeing now. Putting a COLA rider after the amendable date takes many of the advantage away from the company for prolonged section six talks. It also take the Associations constant need for large gains and rationalizes them. In plain English, it means the members are able to buy the same stuff year over year, so there is less pressure on the administration to keep kitting those long balls. Just a though that I have put much though in to. :rolleyes: But its time to have a little "truth in advertising". JMO. |
PG;
Funny thing is that I had a very senior Captain tell me the same thing. He wanted a hard number. When I got done giving him the historical rate of inflation over the last 80 years and what our big raises actually equated to, he realized that getting "restoration" or whatever percentage you want out of this next PWA, and then what I posted about, was by far the best thing we could do for ourselves. It takes a lot of the gaming out of the equation. I know I do not need to tell you any of this, you get it. It is in the end about yoy buying power and that is what we are after. Get us to a rate that is acceptable with a XX% bump and then keep buying power relatively static with a COLA and add a nominal 2-4% DOS+ bump and you have a very rational progression forward. This is a change in thinking, but one I know we must do given the margins we operate under. |
Is it just me or is NOOP seem like BS? A nice fat trip sitting in open time all week. Then the morning of the day prior scheduling lops it up via NOOP and 24 hrs 4 day becomes an 8hr one day with half the time as DH.
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Originally Posted by PilotFrog
(Post 850505)
Is it just me or is NOOP seem like BS? A nice fat trip sitting in open time all week. Then the morning of the day prior scheduling lops it up via NOOP and 24 hrs 4 day becomes an 8hr one day with half the time as DH.
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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler
(Post 850371)
As luck would have it, I am versed in Latin. Here's to all my buds on APC and their new latin names:
Denny...Victoryus Maximus FTB......Photoshopus Hilarius ACL......CIAus is Envyus Scoop...Levelheadus Amongus Ferd.....Femaleus Magnetus NewK...Contractus Maximus KC10....Gleuteus Maximus I keed! Super...Coedus Delicious Carl...Flatulus Disgustus I think Super said it best...
Originally Posted by Superpilot92
(Post 850459)
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot
(Post 850429)
Ya know 500 AC, 50 states 5000 pilots? Their new motto. It makes sense.
I would expect them to buy parts of Mesa as well. I also would not be overly surprised to see SKW Inc, to buy Pinnacle Holdings once the flow issue is finalized. It is the consolidation that the regionals need. The only questions is if the DCI air service agreements would be kept intact in the event of a sale to another party like SKW. http://blogs.995themountain.com/file.../bellyflop.jpg Yall wish me luck. I may need a "kick" to get out of there, if not I could go into limbo and be there forever. |
FtB;
Gravity my dear friend gravity. No worries. :D |
I think that since both are ALPA there will be an integration and that is why EV bought them.
I am not sure what to make of my Latin name :rolleyes: |
Originally Posted by acl65pilot
(Post 850430)
The MD-90 has a slightly lower block cost than certain segment lengths than the 738.
The a/c with the lowest CASM is the 753, then the 744. (As I recall from looking at the CASM's sometime last year) I could be wrong in today's market. During a SLC base visit with SD the network guys were asked this... I'm paraphrasing but heres the gist of it: MD90 vs 738 -738 flies 25 days of the month before breaking even, the last 5 days are gravy, the used MD90 are almost the other way around. - Was asked about the hourly operating cost difference between the MD90 andwith 160 seats vs 738. The network guy dind't give a specific number but asked to guess at $1500 he still was making the "higher" motion... -In the pilot lounge the Network guy said "obviously the crew costs are lower on the MD90...." There's a reason the BOD last year authorized the purchase of up to 65 used MD90... Cheers George |
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