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DLpilot 08-03-2010 05:58 PM


Originally Posted by buzzpat (Post 850253)
Hey IA, I humbly think you're wrong. And, plus, tell that to the DALPA guys. They sing a different tune. I've had this discussion with them. We, for example, don't get international pay for Mexico, Central America or Ecuador. 73 guys don't get international pay, period, and we do fly outside of the 48 states, excluding Alaska and Canada. So if what you are saying is true, DAL owes me a lot of money.

Well, whoever you talked to was wrong. Heck, we get international pay on the -88. I did a CUN turn in May and it showed over 5 hours of international pay. Go take a look at your pay statements on Icrew and you will see that you are getting international pay.

Scoop 08-03-2010 06:27 PM


Originally Posted by tsquare (Post 850009)
First of all.. the bean counters do not give us any payraises. Those are negotiated.. but that's beside the point.



OK - But you brought it up, see below quote.



I DO have a problem with ANY pilots taxiing on 2 engines IF there is not a good reason for it. Taxiing on 2 just because you want to is not a good reason. If you need the extra cooling air.. fine. If there is a hill to climb.. fine. If you have a tight gate on arrival.. you get the picture. 99% of this is just flat out laziness and obstinance, and that just doesn't cut it. Show a little pride in your professionalism, or is that too much to ask?

OK - I guess you also missed the part bolded below were I say we should all should try to operate efficiently.


So where exactly do you find me lacking in "Pride in your professionalism?"
Because I will try real hard to correct my deficiencies.

Scoop



Quote:
Originally Posted by tsquare http://www.airlinepilotforums.com/im...s/viewpost.gif
That's our pay increase going out the back end of that engine. To those captains: Thank you. Inexcusable.


T,

Wow! You have more faith in management then I do. I have a hard time seeing the bean-counters, who seemingly are always 180 degrees out with fuel hedges, giving us a raise on this issue.

Eventually this will all work itself out. I have no problem if Airbus guys decide to taxi 2 engines. In the last 6 years I have been on the 88/90, 767/757, and the 737 - and in every fleet there are guys, for a plethora of reasons, who taxi with 2 engines. Yes, we should all try to operate efficiently, but lets continue to give our Captains the benefit of doubt as to how to accomplish this. Usually guys have a very good reason for what they are doing, anecdotal evidence on this forum notwithstanding.

Scoop

Boomer 08-03-2010 06:34 PM


Originally Posted by clover42 (Post 849590)
Delta wants to sell Comair per that Horizon ariticle.

Not new - there has been a "For Sale" sign in the yard for 5 years.

shiznit 08-03-2010 06:55 PM


Originally Posted by DLpilot (Post 850272)
Well, whoever you talked to was wrong. Heck, we get international pay on the -88. I did a CUN turn in May and it showed over 5 hours of international pay. Go take a look at your pay statements on Icrew and you will see that you are getting international pay.

+1.........

shiznit 08-03-2010 06:57 PM


Originally Posted by Scoop (Post 850279)
T,

Wow! You have more faith in management then I do. I have a hard time seeing the bean-counters, who seemingly are always 180 degrees out with fuel hedges, giving us a raise on this issue.

So how'd we make over 500 mil this quarter?

acl65pilot 08-03-2010 07:05 PM

We made ONLY 500 mil by buying two jets with cash, paying 300 million of debt down and paying all pension obligations early. :D

I know that is not what you asked.

Boomer 08-03-2010 07:33 PM


Originally Posted by RiddleEagle18 (Post 849095)
When there was breifly rumors about delta ordering 190's and putting them on the compass certificate I can assure you I never met 1 compass pilot who was excited about it. Now can you say the same for say the comair group?

Where in the world did that last sentence come from?

RiddleEagle, your posts are usually pretty level headed, so I wonder why you suddenly decide to throw the Comair pilots under the bus?

If you think hating on Comair will give you credibility on a Delta thread, management has already won.

Several Comair guys have gone to Compass. I hope they didn't act like tools toward you or anyone else there.

Perhaps you can tell us about some Comair pilots you have met that are excited to be getting 190s?

DCI peace out,
Boomer

tsquare 08-03-2010 07:45 PM


Originally Posted by Scoop (Post 850279)
OK - I guess you also missed the part bolded below were I say we should all should try to operate efficiently.


So where exactly do you find me lacking in "Pride in your professionalism?"
Because I will try real hard to correct my deficiencies.

Scoop



Quote:
Originally Posted by tsquare http://www.airlinepilotforums.com/im...s/viewpost.gif
That's our pay increase going out the back end of that engine. To those captains: Thank you. Inexcusable.


T,

Wow! You have more faith in management then I do. I have a hard time seeing the bean-counters, who seemingly are always 180 degrees out with fuel hedges, giving us a raise on this issue.

Eventually this will all work itself out. I have no problem if Airbus guys decide to taxi 2 engines. In the last 6 years I have been on the 88/90, 767/757, and the 737 - and in every fleet there are guys, for a plethora of reasons, who taxi with 2 engines. Yes, we should all try to operate efficiently, but lets continue to give our Captains the benefit of doubt as to how to accomplish this. Usually guys have a very good reason for what they are doing, anecdotal evidence on this forum notwithstanding.

Scoop

The pride and professionalism comment was not necessarily aimed at you, but at those that continue this 2 engine taxi for no good reason. I see it all too much.

Tell ya what.. this will be the last I will say about this on this thread. I think my position is perfectly clear about what we need to be doing.. who needs to be doing it.. and why. I will leave it to you to decide if it is worth mentioning to future captains when you are faced with this issue. I know you will do the right thing..

slowplay 08-03-2010 07:52 PM


Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 850310)
We made ONLY 500 mil by buying two jets with cash, paying 300 million of debt down and paying all pension obligations early. :D

I know that is not what you asked.

Please don't mix cash and accrual accounting. It will feed the trolls that think corporations can "hide" money.;)

acl65pilot 08-03-2010 07:58 PM


Originally Posted by slowplay (Post 850324)
Please don't mix cash and accrual accounting. It will feed the trolls that think corporations can "hide" money.;)

Slow, I know, Point was we are doing quite well. Still had that type of profit with those types of expenses. That is a good thing. I hope the momentum continues.


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