How about comparing to this instead of the air frame. The Seat.

Southwest pay for a 12 year Capt and FO respectively are $206 and $144 per hour for a 137 seat 737-700.

This works out to $1.50 per seat/hour for the Capt and $1.05 per hour for the FO.

Next, determine their pay rate for 2012 as these are todays numbers, then take that figure and multiply by the number of seats in each a/c type.

Determine a percentage above that number for pattern bargaining and add. Be certain to put a cost of Living adjustment/clause in and.....

Finally, except NOTHING less in the next CBA.

OK. Maybe that was a little too cryptic. I was trying to say that given your sources and methods, and the way you gather intelligence - the CIA must be envious. Thus "CIAus is Envyus"

Carl

I highly doubt MGMT bases aircraft purchases on negotiating tactics for future contracts.

Let's not kid ourselves, the days of pilot cost being the primary cost of AC operation are long gone...

Cheers
george

ACL,

I was thinking the same thing. No way they will fit all that in our terminal.

Oh trust me Carl, I got it, I just was not sure if it was a compliment. :eek:

The pilot group must also decide if the coveted SWA rates are enough.... No I mean that. There rates went up slightly in this short CBA but are amendable again in the end of 2011.

Also, going to this metric you describe takes things like the efficiency of the next get jets out of the equation.

The 90 is a smart choice for the interim future. Boeing and its competitors are looking at finally building and delivering a jet that has savings in the range of 18-25% over the current narrow body options. Why in gods greed earth would DAL want to spend that sort of money on a jet that will be obsolote in 10 years. Buy a band aid for this seat size and then go all in on the new ones.

Add to this the cost of acquisition is so cheap they can afford to be wrong.

Great point. Tired of being managements cash machine when they need help whether it is due to their failings as stewards of the company or not. The $ 1 B + a year in savings "Note" is due.

You can multiply the savings by two since we are not two pilot groups that had those costs taken from our compensation packages.

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My thought: I think that the auntie annes pretzel with a hotdog in it is one of the tastiest things I have ever eaten. You have to put your health consciousness on hold though.