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Old 12-01-2010 | 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Eck4Life
PBS will also put up to 9 reserve days in a row which I don't have a problem with, but then you can't put more than 6 in a row when trying to swap things around. Frustrating that it's not a two way street.
So, its allowed by the contract and the PBS software builds the line that way. Correct?
Old 12-01-2010 | 03:04 PM
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ACL,

Ok, I get it now. I guess see where one could drop through the crack.

When it happened to me, I noticed the guy I was flying with was an LCA when I looked to see who I was flying with. So, I started researching all of this (since it was different than NWA's) Sure enough, the trip "dropped off" my line about a week prior. But, everything else was clockwork. Got the call that I was removed for OE and thus time available at almost exactly 24 hours prior. I commuted up to MSP and just sat in the lounge until 12 hours prior. I checked the computer and saw no trip and that I had dropped off the available list and went home about an hour later.

Easy Shemeezy............

Yes, a pain to go up and sit around. Yes, a pain that they "couldn't release me" early, ie not commute in (scheduler said she would have if I'd been a reserve, but I wasn't).

But............much nicer than the NWA way. See, I can say something nice

Ferd

PS Did you see the black KAL monument on the mountain, it's just left of the UNZ VOR. So sad
Old 12-01-2010 | 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by iceman49
So, its allowed by the contract and the PBS software builds the line that way. Correct?
I guess the company can build lines that don't meet the off day grouping requirements. PBS will give you 9 days in a row....you can only put 6 in a row yourself. PBS will give you less than three reserve days in a block.....you cannot create a block that is less than three. PBS will give you one day off between blocks....you can't create less than two days off between blocks. PBS will give you more than 5 off day blocks....you cannot move days to create more than 5 off day blocks.

I've noticed the last few months that when PBS builds schedules there are very few ways to move days due to the requirements that THEY violate to build your line. Even with reserves above the minimum you still can't move stuff because of all the off day grouping requirements. It's getting ridiculous. If WE can't do it, then they shouldn't be able to do it either.
Old 12-01-2010 | 03:30 PM
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Question for the PBS gurus: I want to bid reserve to hold weekends off but only if I can get every Sat Sun Mon off. Do I preference those days off and then do "all or nothing" followed by my default bid?

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Old 12-01-2010 | 04:04 PM
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot
DL;
Depends. On an Asia flight I recently DHed on, I sat next to a FO who was going along for the entire trip. The LCA stated that the FO was not qualified until he gave him his line check and he was not going to do that until the leg home. Ergo, he could not sit up front with someone besides another LCA. SO this FO got to DH all over the world.

I find it weird, but this guy was doing it. No kidding.

I also had an entire rotation where all I did was dinner and a movie and augment. The other augment F/O and I would trade off use of the bunk. It was 12 days, DH-BOS-AMS-BOM-AMS-PDX-AMS-MEM-DH. It is correct to state that the new F/O is not qualified until his/her line check, usually the last leg. The only way to legally do breaks.
Old 12-01-2010 | 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by gearsdown
I also had an entire rotation where all I did was dinner and a movie and augment. The other augment F/O and I would trade off use of the bunk. It was 12 days, DH-BOS-AMS-BOM-AMS-PDX-AMS-MEM-DH. It is correct to state that the new F/O is not qualified until his/her line check, usually the last leg. The only way to legally do breaks.
Yep. It is not the case on the 7ER or 765 since the way training is set up makes the pilot qualified on the domestic jets prior to TOE.
Old 12-01-2010 | 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Doug Masters
Question for the PBS gurus: I want to bid reserve to hold weekends off but only if I can get every Sat Sun Mon off. Do I preference those days off and then do "all or nothing" followed by my default bid?

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That or an "Else Start Next". That way if you don't get those days off you can bid back to a line if you want.
Old 12-01-2010 | 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted by buzzpat
Hey guys,

On a completely different note...my wife is getting ready to buy me a Slingbox for Christmas. Any advice, suggestions, reviews? I've been spending so many weekends away from home it would be nice to have some good TV to watch.

Thanks in advance,
Buzz
Buzz,

I have been using one for about 2 years now, they work great! I have the HD version and really like it. You need a really good connection to stream HD though. Also if you have an iPhone there is an application that allows you to watch TV right on your phone (my 6 year old loves this).

If you have any specific question I can answer shoot me a pm.
Old 12-01-2010 | 05:09 PM
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Somewhat related subject...when does AT&T loose exclusivity on the i-Phone?
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Old 12-01-2010 | 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Ferd149
ACL,

Ok, I get it now. I guess see where one could drop through the crack.

When it happened to me, I noticed the guy I was flying with was an LCA when I looked to see who I was flying with. So, I started researching all of this (since it was different than NWA's) Sure enough, the trip "dropped off" my line about a week prior. But, everything else was clockwork. Got the call that I was removed for OE and thus time available at almost exactly 24 hours prior. I commuted up to MSP and just sat in the lounge until 12 hours prior. I checked the computer and saw no trip and that I had dropped off the available list and went home about an hour later.

Easy Shemeezy............


Ferd, Unless something has changed there was no need for you to commute to your base. That is the reason for the 12 hours prior to report. They can't assign you replacement flying that leaves before your original report. You could have stayed home and worst case would have had 12 hours to get to your base. You are not even required to acknowledge the report until 3 hours prior to your original report. If however they place a trip on your line 12 hours prior and you don't respond by 3 hours prior then you now have to be in base on essentially short call for 6 hours after your original report.
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