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DeadHead 12-29-2010 04:43 PM


Originally Posted by caddis (Post 922487)
Question for guys with an iPad. I was checking them out but was not able to view screw schedules and trip info using safari. Is there another browser that works?

Check out Journey
same browser used on the Iphone it gets the job done, just have the browser mimic IE or Firefox.

satchip 12-29-2010 04:52 PM


Originally Posted by caddis (Post 922487)
Question for guys with an iPad. I was checking them out but was not able to view screw schedules and trip info using safari. Is there another browser that works?

I use atomic. It costs 99 cents. You can use journey too. It's free. Tell them to emulate firefox.

forgot to bid 12-29-2010 05:49 PM

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CVG767A 12-29-2010 05:49 PM


Originally Posted by Flamer (Post 922496)
A three day trip at SWA credits about what our four days do. Yes, that is a generic statement. My best friend is at swa, we talk a lot

While that's commendable, it doesn't make them more productive. I would think that pilot productivity is measured by average pilot block hours per year. Most airlines want that number to be as high as possible; they're not likely to concern themselves with how many days you have to work.

Flamer 12-29-2010 07:09 PM


Originally Posted by CVG767A (Post 922548)
While that's commendable, it doesn't make them more productive. I would think that pilot productivity is measured by average pilot block hours per year. Most airlines want that number to be as high as possible; they're not likely to concern themselves with how many days you have to work.

Ok...I should have said block. I guarantee you if our rigs were better we would be more productive. I fly a lot of trips that are plus/minus a few minutes of trip rig and you know they know that when they build them. Which is why is doesn't cost them a dime to sit you on a 3+46 productivity break on the last day of a 4 day. I'm just saying if our rig was a little bit better there would be some encouragement to build the trips a little better. And, I also know that would be a negative when in comes to hiring. Swa's real only rig that they ever hit is the trips for pay rig. They don't do three 18 hour layovers on a 4 day. How bout a Swa guy pitch in here?

LandGreen2 12-29-2010 07:33 PM


Originally Posted by Flamer (Post 922583)
Ok...I should have said block. I guarantee you if our rigs were better we would be more productive. I fly a lot of trips that are plus/minus a few minutes of trip rig and you know they know that when they build them. Which is why is doesn't cost them a dime to sit you on a 3+46 productivity break on the last day of a 4 day. I'm just saying if our rig was a little bit better there would be some encouragement to build the trips a little better. And, I also know that would be a negative when in comes to hiring. Swa's real only rig that they ever hit is the trips for pay rig. They don't do three 18 hour layovers on a 4 day. How bout a Swa guy pitch in here?

Contract 2012 should be easy for ALPA negotiators. SWAPA has done all the work already...throw their contract on the table and adjust the rates for a/c bigger than a 737...done!

forgot to bid 12-29-2010 07:41 PM


Originally Posted by LandGreen2 (Post 922592)
Contract 2012 should be easy for ALPA negotiators. SWAPA has done all the work already...throw their contract on the table and adjust the rates for a/c bigger than a 737...done!

Only if we can be guaranteed that SWA pilots are underworked, overpaid and oversexed. Otherwise, we don't want it. :D

Bill Lumberg 12-29-2010 08:57 PM


Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 922409)
Before we think we can emulate SWA, or Jet Blue ... there are some pretty big structural differences between the way SWA can staff trips and the way Delta can. For starters, SWA has one type of jet in one airline. Delta has seven types in one airline and another 10 other code share partners doing Delta domestic flying.

SWA has more choices to maximize efficiency.

SWA has "hubs" but not really a hub and spoke operation. Delta could never be as efficient because planes don't leave Atlanta, go to Nashville, then Salt Lake City, then LAX, and then Honolulu. The planes usually just go back to the respective hub as a turn. And I thought having 9 or 10 types of planes was an asset, so marketing could find the exact plane that was perfect for a particular route? One size doesn't always fit all. (I knew that in college)

Bill Lumberg 12-29-2010 08:58 PM


Originally Posted by LandGreen2 (Post 922592)
Contract 2012 should be easy for ALPA negotiators. SWAPA has done all the work already...throw their contract on the table and adjust the rates for a/c bigger than a 737...done!

The LAX Capt rep told me that exactly when he was talking to my Captain and me in the ATL lounge recently.

TheManager 12-29-2010 10:02 PM


Originally Posted by Bill Lumberg (Post 922609)
The LAX Capt rep told me that exactly when he was talking to my Captain and me in the ATL lounge recently.

You mean Capt. "Borat"?

Oh boy. Here we go again.


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