Originally Posted by forgot to bid

Absolutely true. It's almost funny that the 757 is mentioned as a 727 replacement, the thing is truly in a class of its own. It's like replacing a 6'1" 215 lb QB that could throw okay with a 6'6" 250 lb QB that can run and juke and yet throw accurately down field.

But I don't think anyone will try to make a direct replacement because the 757 was knocked out by lesser airplanes such as the 738, 739 and I guess maybe even the A321. I mean to make something that equals the 757 might be a waste of effort if the smaller jets continue to hurt it. Think of all of the "757 routes" done or shared with 737s, MD88s and 90s and 320s now. And the high altitude stuff is taken up by 737-700s and A319s.

Not saying the 757 is going away by any means, just saying since economics guides the decisions and given "shrinking" airplanes rarely works well (as in 787 to 757 size) I think there won't be a replacement as the 757s exit a long time from now. Unless the A321 or 738 replacement are given massive engines.

Originally Posted by shiznit

Agreed. All I can say is "FUPM". Aircraft decisions will not affect my contract expectations. I'll fly around old 757, MD-88 and DC-9's or brand spanking new 7X7's, AXXX, or C'whatevers. I don't care what they order, not my problem.

I sell pilot services to Delta Air Lines, I will fly whatever plane they ask, all I ask is that Delta Air Lines compensates me in correlation with my skill, ability, and responsibilities.

Originally Posted by satchip

Did you guys hear about the JB FO that lost his FFDO weapon?

Originally Posted by sailingfun

In 2004 Delta pilot costs were about 2.3 billion a year on 15 to 16 billion in total expenses. The math is pretty easy. Post merger today with the latest pay increases I understand we are around 2.5 billion (larger group, much lower pay) today with the airlines total expenses in the 27 billion range.
We deserve much higher pay and benefits. To try and state that pilot costs are a minimal expense to operate the airlines is however not the case.

Originally Posted by tsquare

Dude... really? the 738 or A32X as a 757 replacement?

Originally Posted by sinca3

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I haven't piloted either, but it would be a huge mistake to replace the 757 permanently with one of those two options.

Originally Posted by tsquare

Sources please. Also how do these numbers break down wrt vacations/PBS efficiencies gained etc etc.... This is important. If you are pulling these numbers out of thin air, you have no credibility. If they are hard facts, there is a ton of ammunition there to negotiate a staggering contract in the coming negotiations. I for one would like to see the comparison.

Originally Posted by tsquare

I would say it is an impossibility. I am pretty sure the 737 cannot go from CVG to CDG... just a guess though.