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Old 02-04-2011 | 05:30 AM
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Planning hopes to have the most recent conversion list from the AE out on Tuesday.
Old 02-04-2011 | 05:32 AM
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Afla; Great post. I was digging though the Bid Monitors this morning to get "pilots required," versus seniority listed pilots. As I see, you as usual do great work.

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Old 02-04-2011 | 05:52 AM
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Excellent analysis Alfa!
Old 02-04-2011 | 05:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Denny Crane
Probably like a baby. I'll never forget what he said in his bankruptcy hearing testimony.

Denny
None of us should forget that.

Perhaps our next contract should be signed only with the stipulation that EB has to go!
Old 02-04-2011 | 06:04 AM
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A Super Bowl First: No Cheerleaders
I guess they don't make them up North like they do down South.
Super Bowl: No Cheerleaders for Pittsburgh Steelers, Green Bay Packers
Old 02-04-2011 | 06:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Columbia
A Super Bowl First: No Cheerleaders
I guess they don't make them up North like they do down South.
Super Bowl: No Cheerleaders for Pittsburgh Steelers, Green Bay Packers
They may not be Cheerleaders, but the pack does have a few ladies that wear the Packer Winter Garb at the games.
Old 02-04-2011 | 06:09 AM
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Originally Posted by alfaromeo
Just a few facts to assuage the fears that have stirred around here lately. First, all jets are not created equal. We have added 10 777's to the fleet, which are the international adds since 2007. Those 10 aircraft produce as many pilot jobs as 40 DC-9's. That's right 40. The 9's are old and break a lot and so they don't fly much per day on average, they have lots of spares. Almost every time a 777 takes off there are 4 pilots in the cockpit. So the 80 or 90 DC-9's that have been parked since 2007 could be replaced by 10 777's and about 30 737's and MD-90's. At the investors conference call in December, Ed Bastian said that between 2010 and 2011 we will purchase 50 MD-90's.

If you look at the bid monitor report, you will see that in Jan 2010 our staffing formula required 9301 pilots. In January 2011 it's 9911. Someone talked about trend vectors, I'm not sure but that seems like a good trend. You can also see that we had 768 pilots on Mil Leave and furlough bypass in 2010. In 2011 it's 636. So the total pilot numbers have gone down, but the number of pilots in flying positions has gone up. We also have 82 new hires that have yet to cycle into active flying.

When DAL/NWA merged, the DAL contract allowed 63 76 seat aircraft and a total of 200 51+ seat aircraft. The NWA contract allowed 90 76 seat aircraft. Add those together and you would get a total of 153 76 seat aircraft and 290 of 51+. What we ended up with was 153 76 seat aircraft and 255 51+. So while it was not a tremendous gain, it was 12% reduction in total airframes allowed. That is another trend in the right direction.

When fuel goes higher, the airline will eliminate frequency and upgauge markets. The DC-9 flying will be replaced by MD-90's as they come on line, that is why there is a 12-18 month wind down of those airplanes, they need the MD-90's to get their mods. The new 70 seaters announced, and you should expect them to go up to the limit, will replace 50 seat flying, probably on a 3 for 5 basis. The MD-90's will also replace 50 seat flying by drastically reducing gauge. At the investor's conference they talked about how they have reduced ATL-DAB from 7 flights per day to 4 and the average gauge has gone from 66 seats to 138 (that is on slide 24 if you want to look). They are also getting more use out of each airframe because the larger network means you have less aircraft sitting around at out stations waiting to turn back into the hub.

I will go back to my first point. The pilots required figure has gone up by 600 in the last year. That will continue to grow as high fuel prices force decreased frequency and upgauging in markets. I don't think it will lead to massive hiring because we are slowly reconfiguring the pilot bases to have less deadheading which reduces the need for pilots.

While it is disconcerting to see management take the 51+ aircraft up to the limit, it should not have been unexpected. The JCBA did have a 12% reduction from the individual contracts and that is a decent first step. The trends are moving in the opposite direction from the last 10 years, you just have to dig a little deeper than the Yahoo Airline News headlines to find them.
Alpha, thanks for the analysis. It's good to see some positive outlook with this.

There are a couple of things you wrote that I question though (which makes me question the accuracy of the rest of your analysis):

1) The DC-9's have spares? I've never seen any DC-9's sitting around as spares. Every time I've had a replacement aircraft to replace an aircraft with a mechanical, they've taken it from another flight. It has never come from an aircraft that was sitting around as a spare.

2) The MD-90's are going to replace the DC-9's? I just don't see this really happening. Maybe in a few isolated instances they will upgauge a market and fly MD-90's with less frequency. But I strongly suspect that what will really happen is they will increase frequency with RJ70's to replace much of the flying that is now done by DC-9's. I hope you're right, but I'm going to have to see it to believe it.
Old 02-04-2011 | 06:19 AM
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This is from Deltanet...

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Old 02-04-2011 | 06:20 AM
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Originally Posted by alfaromeo

While it is disconcerting to see management take the 51+ aircraft up to the limit, it should not have been unexpected.
Just like having 6 SCs/day and the myriad other things that have come to light since BK, I hope the clue bird finally comes home to roost with the negotiators and they realize that if there is potential for something to EVER be a bad deal for the pilots.. it probably will at some point....
Old 02-04-2011 | 06:21 AM
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot
They may not be Cheerleaders, but the pack does have a few ladies that wear the Packer Winter Garb at the games.
Think I found 'em
350 Pound Female Packers Fan Sent to Hospital After Struggling to Put on Camo - Chicago Tough
"It wasn't a surprise to me," beamed the thankful Jerry Wolski. "All you gotta do to get her in bed is some antlers, a call, a 12 pack of miller, and Seger's 'Still the Same'...she'll get on top of you in 30 seconds. Well...it used to be 30 seconds. More like 40 now...she's kind of havin' trouble getting that second leg over...but...you get the picture."
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